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So I'm assuming since the printrbot can have an lcd  wired on this should be the same

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Pri … tedIndex=0

So where do I get those connected pins? And is it just as simple as soldering those pins in there?

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autoxer wrote:

...well I just wasted 1.5 hours.  Just getting into it and seems like this company could use some PR work, but not surprising for something small.  I have no problem with them using open source and trying to save money.  But they really need to update their guide.  The recommended drivers DO NOT WORK!!!  @!#$^

Thanks to you guys being on top of it I figured this out.  The drivers for the Printrbot worked to get it up an going on a COM port as intended (further proving this is a Printrbot design).  Way to make a change and not update guides.


By pure chance I ran across this article and your statement. After dealing with Solidoodle tech support and getting no answers. Bam! I  find this while trying to find info about the power supply that  only lasted 3 days. I just wanted to say thank you!  I am glad I no-longer have to us ubuntu to run my printer!

After further reading I think I know why my power supplied died. The 12.5 amps it is pushing isn't enough for the setup. Looks like my 12v 30a replacement isn't going to be that much over kill after all.

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OmegaSupreme wrote:

After further reading I think I know why my power supplied died. The 12.5 amps it is pushing isn't enough for the setup. Looks like my 12v 30a replacement isn't going to be that much over kill after all.

To be pedantic, power supplies dont 'push' current, they provide it. Its not a constant like voltage.  What mods did you make to your Solidoodle - because as delivered the power supply is more than capable of the required current. There was a batch of badly manufactured ones that have too much tension on the leads to the PCB which tend to fail due to stress, but its a fairly simple fix and not related to the load being placed on the PSU beyond load == thermal stress..

And your 30 amp will still be overkill even if you max out all the possible mods you can do:  15amps for a Silicone Bed, 2.5 amps for the Extruder Heater, 4amps *peak* on the Steppers, 1 amp peak for all the fans and LEDs and 300ma for the  ATMega - so 23 Amp if everything was turned on at 100% and busy at 100% (which it isn't often, since the Bed and Extruder are in PID cycles probably 80% of the time... steppers shutdown after 30 secs of inactivity) - but it never hurts to have more current than you need. The bigger issue then is the traces on the PCB for the Power MOSFETs

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I'm sorry for such an off topic noob question but is the silicone bed will it just plug right in the existing setup or will it need extra power?  Bi have the "new" motherboard

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The power supply itself is not capable of delivering the needed current on most silicone beds - they need generally speaking 12.5 to 15Amps...

As to if the new Motherboard can handle it - I haven't seen one in the flesh, but looking at the Eagle Board files over on reprap-wiki, it *seems* like it will handle the current on the PCB:
http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/thumb/6/62/Printrboard_RevB_Board300.png/800px-Printrboard_RevB_Board300.png

If SD are using the "Unofficial" RevE version, then it will have 70A (*cough* wink ) MOSFETs in an SMT Package... But they cost more, so I'm going to guess they stuck with the 35A versions.. which means you can run the bed off the board, but you'll want to make real sure that you have a fan over the MOSFETs.

So you need to upgrade your power supply - try searching the forum for Dell Server for a very cheap option that needs a bit of modification - or you can purchase one of the MeanWell ones (also search for - theres a few threads with it spoken about).

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So what is the update procedure for changing the firmware on the new board and adding future bells and whistles?  Is this documented as of yet? 
To Solidoodle:  No complaints here this thing is awesome for the money.  Thanks for putting the machine together guys I couldn't have irritated my wife with a DIY plastic light saber without you.

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Since its just a clone of the Printrboard, I'd hazard a guess the same as documented at : http://reprap.org/wiki/Printrboard . .  Specific instructions are at http://reprap.org/wiki/Printrboard#Load … Windows.29 or http://reprap.org/wiki/Printrboard#Load … 28Linux.29

The big question still unanswered - Where are the Solidoodle Firmware and Schematic Files for the new board.... Still waiting on that ...

Anyway, based on previous boards - its just going to be the Printrboard mashup firmware, with the bed size set correctly for the Solidoodle and the temps setup (i.e, you can just make it yourself... theres been no 'special sauce' in the firmwares *to date*.....)

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like I said im an electronic noob, what/where? are the MOSFETs?  I like my acrylic minimalist cover on the board , but I guess ill have to print a new one to hold a fan...

another question kinda related to the board, my  X travel is a little loud, could I try turning the amperage down on the trimpot?  ive heard some peoples machines and they sound nice and almost musical. everything sounds good except my X axis.

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Here is what a mosfet looks like with a TO220 case which is what the SD uses

http://www.westfloridacomponents.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/t227.jpg

...almost forgot they are located where the hotend and extruder plug onto the mainboard; one each next to each plug.

Here (green arrows):
http://i.imgur.com/W8SNHMW.jpg?1

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How does one get into the firmware ?  I see no directions how to actually get into the firmware

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MolecularConcept wrote:

How does one get into the firmware ?  I see no directions how to actually get into the firmware

Can you elaborate your question.. its not quite making sense.

The firmware upgrade procedures are linked in my post above;  http://reprap.org/wiki/Printrboard .. Under "Loading Firmware" .

Are you asking for the Source Code to compile the firmware, as shipped on your Printrboard ? Well, Solidoodle are required to post links to their firmware, AND their Board Schematics, which are not yet forthcoming despite the CC ShareAlike licence on the Printrboard they have re manufactured....... But that probably surprises no one that they haven't yet....

If you are desperate for firmware, I'd suggest that you can confidently take the latest Printrboard firmware, and adjust the build dimensions/tempreatures and there you go, done.

SolidoodleSupport: Where are the Firmware Files and your Board Schematics as per CC ShareAlike Licence of the Printrboard ??

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Hi world!

It's time to know how to update firmware with the "new" motherboard!!!! Despite many search and attempts i didn't find the solution :-(

Please, Solidoodle, don't leave us with a car and no key...

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solidoodlesupport wrote:

We will continue using the Marlin firmware, and firmware uploads are still possible, with a few process tweaks. Instead of using the arduino IDE, the firmware uploads will be done with a convenient command line tool.

I want to know, please, help me!!!

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http://www.soliwiki.com/Updating_Solidoodle_Firmware

Solidoodle 2/3

The latest firmware works both with Solidoodle 2 and Solidoodle 3. By default, it will be compiled for SD2. If you have a SD3, open the Configuration.h tab and change the line


How do. I get to where they are talking about? Do I need another piece of software?

And what size screws will fit in those holes in the frame for hinges? Its like 2.87mm

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the wiki is for ATmega644p or ATmega1284P but not for the new motherboard equipped with ATmega1286-AU... :-(

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I'm sure you'd use the presets for printrboards?? Do I need that arduino software? Where to get? Going to set up flow rate and stuff

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solidoodlesupport wrote:

firmware uploads are still possible, with a few process tweaks

Solidoodle team could simply tell us how to solve this issue...

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You can't use printrbot settings.

Not only do they have a different print volume but all the little details will be incorrect:
- Thermistor selection
- Steps per mm for all sxis
- min and max temps
- PID values
- etc

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all I want to do is be able to calibrate my extrusion stepper. do I need the arduino IDE ?

why isn't solidoodle releasing information on their hardware? I get that its new, but we by nature are a group of tinkerers...

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MolecularConcept wrote:

all I want to do is be able to calibrate my extrusion stepper. do I need the arduino IDE ?

No, thats just an EEPROM firmware setting. Config->Firmware Config Setting ...

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MolecularConcept wrote:

http://www.soliwiki.com/Updating_Solidoodle_Firmware

Solidoodle 2/3

The latest firmware works both with Solidoodle 2 and Solidoodle 3. By default, it will be compiled for SD2. If you have a SD3, open the Configuration.h tab and change the line


How do. I get to where they are talking about? Do I need another piece of software?

And what size screws will fit in those holes in the frame for hinges? Its like 2.87mm

Just to be clear, all SD3s go out with the appropriate set of SD3 specific firmware.

Former Solidoodle employee, no longer associated with the company.

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solidoodlesupport wrote:

Just to be clear, all SD3s go out with the appropriate set of SD3 specific firmware.

... And the source code and schematics would be posted to what URL now - as per the required licencing of the Printrboard and Marlin Firmware.. its been several weeks now since your 'announcement' of using Open Source Hardware....

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

Creative Commons wrote:

Share Alike — If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one.

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adrian wrote:
OmegaSupreme wrote:

After further reading I think I know why my power supplied died. The 12.5 amps it is pushing isn't enough for the setup. Looks like my 12v 30a replacement isn't going to be that much over kill after all.

To be pedantic, power supplies dont 'push' current, they provide it. Its not a constant like voltage.  What mods did you make to your Solidoodle - because as delivered the power supply is more than capable of the required current. There was a batch of badly manufactured ones that have too much tension on the leads to the PCB which tend to fail due to stress, but its a fairly simple fix and not related to the load being placed on the PSU beyond load == thermal stress..

And your 30 amp will still be overkill even if you max out all the possible mods you can do:  15amps for a Silicone Bed, 2.5 amps for the Extruder Heater, 4amps *peak* on the Steppers, 1 amp peak for all the fans and LEDs and 300ma for the  ATMega - so 23 Amp if everything was turned on at 100% and busy at 100% (which it isn't often, since the Bed and Extruder are in PID cycles probably 80% of the time... steppers shutdown after 30 secs of inactivity) - but it never hurts to have more current than you need. The bigger issue then is the traces on the PCB for the Power MOSFETs

True in this case voltage is constant and current is the variable in respect to time.  I believe I have one of the newer power supplies and it has issues.   Yes,  30 amps is overkill but I got a good deal on the power supply. Anyways, I plan on tricking out the power supply using a pic. For me it is all about doing a projects to keep up on my skills.

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It's worth having an over engineered power supply for future mods.

Imagine upgrading in the future to have heaters for the chambers and fan, a second hot end, or a super quick heating bed.

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No news from solidoodlesupport about how to update firmware of the new motherboard of SD3?