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The local maker space Has had kids programs . One Saturday morning i was there and the regular program had ended.
I was asked if i could do a short presentation to the kids. Keep in mind this maker space has a good computer classroom complete with smart board. In about 20 minutes each of the kids had designed there own personal key fob that could have been 3d printed.
And in time some of them were.
Did this short class make these kids experts of course not but it showed them they could crate something of there very own  This is in my opinion the power of teaching 3d printing ans as if not more important 3d design.

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yizhou.he wrote:

I totally agree with Carl, I think 3d printing for kids below high school is just a demonstration in science class, might increase scientific visionary, the topic will eventually go into robotics and automation or something like that. 3D printing is just a tool for certain career and I would vote on more coding class over hands on 3D printing for little kids.

All my kids go to America public schools, but they all have 3-4 home room per grade. I imagine it all depend on school district and the area over the country. I think the 3D printer for demonstration need to be easy to move on a classroom cart, only bring in class room when needed, otherwise many creative object will get into the printer when teacher walk out of the room.

Gonna be brutally and bluntly honest here - nobody cares what you think.

You consistently give bad advice, argue points that do not need to be argued, or have been proven elsewhere, you are full of yourself, and you need to get over yourself.

And frankly, the greater majority of us are sick to death of you and your "know it all" attitude about everything. Go crawl back under the eaves that you crawled out from under and leave the rest of us alone, please

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when I was at school (a long way back, my school had a computer - yes just the one, yet computer studies were taught.
when my daughter went to school, they had several computer labs, with one computer per student for that lesson,
nowadays its nearer to a computer per pupil (or maybe a tablet) everything is done interactively - even down to homework being sent to the students tablet.
my point with the above being - you have to start somewhere.
even with a single printer you can teach, the next step would be a 3d printing lab, with a number of machines, then you teach the students how to design and build their own printers (or make them up from kits) then the next generation treat the technology as something they just know about instinctively and use.
half the time you will be teaching the design aspects, the printer will just be there to realise the designs, the day will come when the pupil takes their design home and gets it printed out on the family printer.
now can we please stop arguing with each other and help the OP out, after all as a teacher they have probably seen enough of this behaviour in their classroom.
personally I only have experience of the da vinci, and I agree that this is probably not the best printer for the classroom- mainly due to the lack of support from the parent company, it does work reasonably reliably, but i have chipped two print beds now, that is one a year with light use of the machine, in a classroom environment I can see that repair costs could spiral, and add to that you would be doing the repairs yourself, and it becomes uneconomic, the machine gets put into storage and the class becomes theoretical with no practical. I believe a simpler machine, that can maybe print its own repair parts would be a better learning experience.

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It would be interesting to know what the OP has to say about this discussion.

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30 (edited by yizhou.he 2019-02-09 20:47:26)

Re: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

Grendel wrote:

when I was at school (a long way back, my school had a computer - yes just the one, yet computer studies were taught.
when my daughter went to school, they had several computer labs, with one computer per student for that lesson,
nowadays its nearer to a computer per pupil (or maybe a tablet) everything is done interactively - even down to homework being sent to the students tablet.
my point with the above being - you have to start somewhere.
even with a single printer you can teach, the next step would be a 3d printing lab, with a number of machines, then you teach the students how to design and build their own printers (or make them up from kits) then the next generation treat the technology as something they just know about instinctively and use.
half the time you will be teaching the design aspects, the printer will just be there to realise the designs, the day will come when the pupil takes their design home and gets it printed out on the family printer.
now can we please stop arguing with each other and help the OP out, after all as a teacher they have probably seen enough of this behaviour in their classroom.
personally I only have experience of the da vinci, and I agree that this is probably not the best printer for the classroom- mainly due to the lack of support from the parent company, it does work reasonably reliably, but i have chipped two print beds now, that is one a year with light use of the machine, in a classroom environment I can see that repair costs could spiral, and add to that you would be doing the repairs yourself, and it becomes uneconomic, the machine gets put into storage and the class becomes theoretical with no practical. I believe a simpler machine, that can maybe print its own repair parts would be a better learning experience.

When I was at school, 2D printer is where 3D printer is at right now. Dot matrix, inkjet, thermal, and laser jet, very fancy but also with many paper jam or print head block issues. Main stream computer 128kb memory and 800MB hard drive at that time.

No school teach hands on 2D printing in class however, we do learn a lots of 2D design in computer class, and I don't feel we missed any important training. I don't see how it is going to be much different in 3D printing era. I can see more school library provide 3D printing equipment/service in the near future. As the maturation of 3D printer technology, the need for formal hands on 3D printing class is going down for everybody and the time share of 3D design class will increase in school, and not necessary 3D printing oriented.

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By the time they hit the market 2d printers were an output medium that worked.

Yes 3d design need to be taught in school. If a school has a 3d printer it should be integrated.

And nobody cares what you think.Once again you are missing the point .You consistently give bad advice, argue points that do not need to be argued, or have been proven elsewhere, you are full of yourself, and you need to get over yourself.
There is a time for opposing views ,but not on every post.  This is a forum not high school debate class .It is about helping others with a hobby not about being right all the time . Back off if you can not be helpful.

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32 (edited by yizhou.he 2019-02-09 23:28:28)

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I only try to offer my advice and defending my advice. I did not intend to argue with anyone. I did not start the debate, but I will defend everything I post or apologize if I'm wrong.

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33 (edited by Tin Falcon 2019-02-10 01:12:21)

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and there in lies the problem.

If you did not post wrong information there would be no need to apologize. but not sure you even know when you are wrong, even when told by multiple people. I am not telling you to go away just temper your posts and opinions. If you can not do that  it would be best if you leave.

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Cant be wrong when you are a know it all

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and that is part of the problem !!

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36 (edited by Kronikabuse 2019-02-10 00:59:02)

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Yep. He belongs on Facebook with the rest of the geniuses. Or at very least confined to the davinci sub-forum

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yizhou.he wrote:

I only try to offer my advice and defending my advice. I did not intend to argue with anyone. I did not start the debate, but I will defend everything I post or apologize if I'm wrong.

What a flippin joke this is...

you are wrong far more often than you are right, but I have yet to see you apologize for anything, anywhere in this forum.

Go away. you, your terrible advise & your "know it all", argumentative attitude are not wanted here. Cant put it much more plainly than that.

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I have a good friend on another forum That is a certified genus (member of MENSA) he has a  a PHD . Retired college Professor.   The guy knows his stuff  but he is not argumentative and doesn't  come off as a know it all. HIS opinion is respected.

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Tin Falcon wrote:

I have a good friend on another forum That is a certified genus (member of MENSA) he has a  a PHD . Retired college Professor.   The guy knows his stuff  but he is not argumentative and doesn't  come off as a know it all. HIS opinion is respected.

kind of wish we had a "like" button here.. I would "like" this statement.

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Thanks . I have met a fair number of PHDs over the years and all that I have dealt in person   come across as regular people.

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lol, I came across as regular person in real life too. People either trust me and ask me for advice, or ask someone else. If anyone ask for my advice and questioning my advice I will just let him struggle on his own. I usually don't have to waste my time argue with anyone.

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so act normal here and stop arguing with folks here!!!
and if you feel like you are wasting your time here just leave.

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Please please please  LEAVE

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leaving...

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Good luck in life .

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46 (edited by yizhou.he 2019-02-10 03:59:58)

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life is great, good luck for you too.

(Still trying to figure out how to turn off email notification from the forum, kept geting emails from the topic)

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yizhou.he wrote:

(Still trying to figure out how to turn off email notification from the forum, kept geting emails from the topic)

try looking here...

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See ya!

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just did that, still get email about heartless's reply, but no content.

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Just tried the unsubscribtion link in the email, hopefully that will end it.

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