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Topic: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

I have 400 - 500 to spend on a new 3D printer for my classroom.

Can you give me some suggestions please.

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Re: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

Wait for others to offer their options before you make any decisions.  At that price point you will be hard pressed to find a printer that will survive a classroom environment.  I am assuming you’re looking for something that actually prints out of the box.  If you are looking for a kit that a class could assemble, there are plenty of options. Some clarification would help.

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Creality CR-10 looks nice and it seems to be very popular. If you are planning on printing with just PLA, I think it would be a decent option.

https://all3dp.com/1/creality-cr-10-3d- … -the-hype/

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I would not recommend CR-10. I will recommend the upgraded CR-10S over CR-10. Do some research about the difference. The cost is about $400-500, and they both are very good printer despite the difference.

However, I don't know how much need it is to have huge build volume as CR-10/CR10-S for classroom use. It takes long time to print a huge object. If the print time is limited in class, I would recommend Ender-3 kits, it cost around $200-250, and you can spend the rest money on an Delta printer kits. Ender-3 and Delta printer are controlled differently and will be fun to watch in class room. But keep in mind these are kits and require some assembly.

Wanhao D7 is also a great alternative, cost at about $500, small build volume and great print quality, the printing process is not that fun to watch for classes, and the smell of the resin may also be potential issue for classroom use.

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Not exactly new  but an option
These are open box / refurbished
Similar to the wanhoa d6
The frame is solid aluminum and the build platform is 6mm thick
I have on they are decent printers good quality out of the box . for the class room you would likely need to add a plexiglass enclosure.
I am throwing this out as an option at the price you specified read reviews do you homework

The MP mini select is not a horrible printer for the money  but IIRC not open sourced and you could buy 2. 


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Open-Box-Monop … SwiNZbc8P2

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Re: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

Maybe we should define
Printer good for classroom
i would think enclosed printer
sturdy build
ease of use
easy to repair
open source

First of all a disclaimer I am not a professional educator  so I have no classroom experience. I am a teacher by heart in that I always want to teach someone something.
Who is going to be the owner proprietor of this machine ? The go to person when something goes wrong or breaks.
This person needs good mechanical, electronic and some software skills And last but not least the time to deal with issues on the machine.
I have a friend that sells 3d printers to schools and the owner issue seems to be the make or  break of a successful 3d printing program.  If you do not have someone committed and designated and skilled to maintain the machine or it will turn into an expensive paper weight.
Also if you are the teacher you will need a good understanding of 3d CAD. And you will need to be comfortable with slicing software, Repiter Host etc and teaching it.

Do not believe the hype of you can print anything with the push of a button. These printers do not exist in the real world yes some very expensive machines com e close but way out of your budget. 3 d printers are simply machines they run a program. Well tuned they give some very good results.. However someone needs to maintain and set up /tune the machine mechanically and through firmware. And you need to learn the slicing software for good and optimal results.
There is a bit of a learning curve and  you or the designated proprietor need to climb this sometimes slippery slope.

In no way am i trying to discourage you from purchasing a printer for your school  but it may not be as simple and easy as you imagine.
3D printing is not a fast operation somthing simple as a key fob will take 20 - 30 minutes to print  larger prints may take hours. so you need to take this into account when managing equitable printer time with the students.


While detas are indeed fun to watch they do take a bit more time to tune and maintain. another consideration.


The ideal printer  for any induvidual will vary depending on skill lever and life experiences. Taste  goals etc.

The classroom has its own dynamics
What are the ages of the kids
How much hands on will they have with the printer.
Time allotted to the 3d printing aspect. .....


And i apologize for throwing up more questions than answers but is the long term will help you make a better decision  and you and the class have a more positive experience.

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My teaching experiment are limited to Computer Science and Molecular Cell Biology, not 3D printing, and my student are not kids, so I use some of my imagination on how I would teach kids 3D printing before answer the question.

My definition for Printer good for classroom:
I would not think enclosed printer is good, open frame is better for demonstration and observation.
I would choose easy to move over sturdy build unless you have dedicated space in the the classroom and you only need the printer in that room.
ease of use is important. Occasional nozzle clog is not a option.
easy to repair, and more importantly, cheap to repair, unless maintenance funding is unlimited.
Fun to watch.
Print quality is not that critical, I would imagine print at 0.3 mm layer height for the sake of time, and it will be nice if it can print relatively fast.

Filament will be limited to PLA on blue painter's tape for simplicity. I would print a 3D printer part first and replace the stock part, encoder push button should not take long to print. If the classroom can be dark after lights off, I would print a 2 layer glow in dark "EXIT" sign. Otherwise print a whistle for a lucky student.

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yizhou.he wrote:

My teaching experiment are limited to Computer Science and Molecular Cell Biology, not 3D printing, and my student are not kids, so I use some of my imagination on how I would teach kids 3D printing before answer the question.

My definition for Printer good for classroom:
I would not think enclosed printer is good, open frame is better for demonstration and observation.
I would choose easy to move over sturdy build unless you have dedicated space in the the classroom and you only need the printer in that room.
ease of use is important. Occasional nozzle clog is not a option.
easy to repair, and more importantly, cheap to repair, unless maintenance funding is unlimited.
Fun to watch.
Print quality is not that critical, I would imagine print at 0.3 mm layer height for the sake of time, and it will be nice if it can print relatively fast.

Filament will be limited to PLA on blue painter's tape for simplicity. I would print a 3D printer part first and replace the stock part, encoder push button should not take long to print. If the classroom can be dark after lights off, I would print a 2 layer glow in dark "EXIT" sign. Otherwise print a whistle for a lucky student.

Some serious misconceptions here...

1. I would not think enclosed printer is good - you can still have enclosed and still be able to see what is going on. a clear acrylic box is easy and it keeps small fingers out of harms way.

2. I would choose easy to move over sturdy build - these two items are not mutually exclusive. you can have sturdy and easy to move in one package.. if it is the right package.
A sturdy frame is important on ANY 3d printer.. without it, well.. things don't work as expected. In fact, I would suggest that a sturdy frame is of HIGH importance, especially in this instance, because of where it would be..

3. Print quality is not that critical, - Uh, beg to differ here.. Print quality is ALWAYS important.. you want your printed item to look decent. I know if I was a kid, and the stuff i saw coming off a 3d printer looked like crap, i would lose interest pretty quickly.
The better things look, the more interest is cultivated and fostered.

Go back to your adult students, please.. you really don't have a clue what is needed here, (as is typical of most of your responses.)

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for kicks and giggles i did a google search for best 3d printer for the classroom
i came across htis link.
https://all3dp.com/1/best-3d-printer-fo … rge-finder
This is the only printer in the list within your budget.
with an injection molded frame not sure how sturdy it is . and Not sure how repairable it is as one or two broken tabs and it is likely pretty much useless. and the print volume is small 140 x 140
The other question is will the printer be used for subject related teaching aides or whatever the student want to design. and if subject related what subject.



also imho do not even think about buying a davinci. Way too many issues  on those come up her on this forum. there is no factory tech support that i know of.

The dremells ave a good rep but again out of your budget that is the current printer at the local makerspace and it seems to be doing well for them.
I did teach a couple classes there when the statysys u print was working . That had a hands off policy only staff was allowed to touch the machine.
The local public library purcahsed a 3d printer then locked it in the basements  resource lab for safe keeping.
In my humble opinion a 3d printer need s to be visible.  but you can have a hands off policy.

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Tin Falcon wrote:

for kicks and giggles i did a google search for best 3d printer for the classroom
i came across htis link.
https://all3dp.com/1/best-3d-printer-fo … rge-finder
This is the only printer in the list within your budget.
with an injection molded frame not sure how sturdy it is . and Not sure how repairable it is as one or two broken tabs and it is likely pretty much useless. and the print volume is small 140 x 140
The other question is will the printer be used for subject related teaching aides or whatever the student want to design. and if subject related what subject.



also imho do not even think about buying a davinci. Way too many issues  on those come up her on this forum. there is no factory tech support that i know of.

The dremells ave a good rep but again out of your budget that is the current printer at the local makerspace and it seems to be doing well for them.
I did teach a couple classes there when the statysys u print was working . That had a hands off policy only staff was allowed to touch the machine.
The local public library purcahsed a 3d printer then locked it in the basements  resource lab for safe keeping.
In my humble opinion a 3d printer need s to be visible.  but you can have a hands off policy.


It says alloy frame on Amazon so my guess is it has a metal frame with a pretty ABS cover such is the current trend.

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yizhou.he wrote:

I would not recommend CR-10. I will recommend the upgraded CR-10S over CR-10. Do some research about the difference. The cost is about $400-500, and they both are very good printer despite the difference.

However, I don't know how much need it is to have huge build volume as CR-10/CR10-S for classroom use. It takes long time to print a huge object. If the print time is limited in class, I would recommend Ender-3 kits, it cost around $200-250, and you can spend the rest money on an Delta printer kits. Ender-3 and Delta printer are controlled differently and will be fun to watch in class room. But keep in mind these are kits and require some assembly.

Wanhao D7 is also a great alternative, cost at about $500, small build volume and great print quality, the printing process is not that fun to watch for classes, and the smell of the resin may also be potential issue for classroom use.


I would not allow students other than Junior or senior level work with a resin based system. The cleanup requires massive amounts of alcohol which is very flammable and dries skin out badly. You also need a place to store the used alcohol till it can be disposed of properly. I also think the cost of resin is still prohibitive in schools where large amounts will be used and wasted.

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Tin Falcon wrote:

The dremells ave a good rep but again out of your budget that is the current printer at the local makerspace and it seems to be doing well for them.


Can confirm Dremel 3D45 is a nice unit. That is my main printer right now (while I work on the 3 others). It is just easy. Everything is pretty well dialed in.

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carl_m1968 wrote:

I would not allow students other than Junior or senior level work with a resin based system. The cleanup requires massive amounts of alcohol which is very flammable and dries skin out badly. You also need a place to store the used alcohol till it can be disposed of properly. I also think the cost of resin is still prohibitive in schools where large amounts will be used and wasted.

I don't know how much hands on it can be with one printer per classroom. I think it will be mostly a demonstration class if students are too young. If the use of alcohol is problematic, the demonstration will end before the cleanup process. I totally agree that the cost of resin will be a major issue.

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heartless wrote:

Some serious misconceptions here...

1. I would not think enclosed printer is good - you can still have enclosed and still be able to see what is going on. a clear acrylic box is easy and it keeps small fingers out of harms way.

2. I would choose easy to move over sturdy build - these two items are not mutually exclusive. you can have sturdy and easy to move in one package.. if it is the right package.
A sturdy frame is important on ANY 3d printer.. without it, well.. things don't work as expected. In fact, I would suggest that a sturdy frame is of HIGH importance, especially in this instance, because of where it would be..

3. Print quality is not that critical, - Uh, beg to differ here.. Print quality is ALWAYS important.. you want your printed item to look decent. I know if I was a kid, and the stuff i saw coming off a 3d printer looked like crap, i would lose interest pretty quickly.
The better things look, the more interest is cultivated and fostered.

Go back to your adult students, please.. you really don't have a clue what is needed here, (as is typical of most of your responses.)

A clear acrylic box will make demonstration very difficult. and it will reflect lights and block many observation angle. I don't see a need to keeps small fingers out of harms way, unless the teacher are very incompetent.

I don't see many 3D printer with sturdy frame fits into this budget, MonoPrice Maker ultimate might be the only option. I think 3D printer with stable frame and easy to move is more important, keep it a way from kids when class is over.

"Print quality is not that critical" mostly refer to maximum resolution. If print come out looked like crap, the printer need repair or upgrade.

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yizhou.he wrote:

I don't see a need to keeps small fingers out of harms way.

You apparently ignore safety and Murphy's Law.
Do not ever suggest yourself as a professional consultant while disregarding safety; especially while disregarding the safety of children.

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Re: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

AZERATE wrote:

You apparently ignore safety and Murphy's Law.
Do not ever suggest yourself as a professional consultant while disregarding safety; especially while disregarding the safety of children.

I handle all kinds of virus, radioactive material and explosive chemical on daily basis, I do understand the importance of safety, I also understand there are safety procedures that you need to follow to get things done safely.

I don't see a need to keeps small fingers out of harms way, unless the teacher are very incompetent. I don't see a need to allow student to get close to the running printer in class, safety distance is a must for running printer. They can observe closely only when the printer is powered off and unplugged from the wall.

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I don't see a need to keeps small fingers out of harms way, unless the teacher are very incompetent.

And yet you lock your printers in the attic to protect them from you two year old!!
Just please stop giving  bad advise .

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Tin Falcon wrote:

And yet you lock your printers in the attic to protect them from you two year old!!
Just please stop giving  bad advise .

Yes, because enclosure does not make it any safer, you can open it, kids can open it. Safty procedure, and safty distance and finish with complete lock down.

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Or you could just let them get burned a few times and they will stay away from it. That's how my parents taught me growing up. That's how I learned about hot and electricity by getting to know them first hand and thus respecting them from that point on. My parents always felt it was possible to be over protective and then your child would never learn the real values.

But the point is here you want a printer that can withstand the bumps and jars that kids can give it and still be easy to learn and operate. Pretty tall order for the budget. Dremel or Makerbot is really the ones that fit the bill but one of those is over $2000. But does include a tech that will come out and service it.

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Yes, because enclosure does not make it any safer, you can open it, kids can open it. Safety procedure, and safety distance and finish with complete lock down.

Just please stop giving  bad advise .

wiring out of the way is out of the way side covers prevent reach through and doors that can be opened can be locked.
Only letting kids watch a shutdown printer teaches them nothing. Having a a hands off policy is fine but tough to enforce.
Kids are kids they are curious they want to experience thing this mean touching . A safe distance is also not going to teach them anything so you are suggesting an open printer and binoculars . just does not make sense.

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Re: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

Tin Falcon wrote:

Just please stop giving  bad advise .

wiring out of the way is out of the way side covers prevent reach through and doors that can be opened can be locked.
Only letting kids watch a shutdown printer teaches them nothing. Having a a hands off policy is fine but tough to enforce.
Kids are kids they are curious they want to experience thing this mean touching . A safe distance is also not going to teach them anything so you are suggesting an open printer and binoculars . just does not make sense.

I don't think the idea of the class is teach kids how to leveling the bed or tighten the belt. It is more about the concept of additive manufacture and fast prototype. if you expect kids can operate 3d printer or even design their own model is asking a little too much.

openprinter is easy to observe from safe distance. They can touch and play with shutdown printer but not running one. When I was kids we go to factory and research lab or musiums that all require hands off policy, and still learned what we need to learn.

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yizhou.he wrote:
Tin Falcon wrote:

Just please stop giving  bad advise .

wiring out of the way is out of the way side covers prevent reach through and doors that can be opened can be locked.
Only letting kids watch a shutdown printer teaches them nothing. Having a a hands off policy is fine but tough to enforce.
Kids are kids they are curious they want to experience thing this mean touching . A safe distance is also not going to teach them anything so you are suggesting an open printer and binoculars . just does not make sense.

I don't think the idea of the class is teach kids how to leveling the bed or tighten the belt. It is more about the concept of additive manufacture and fast prototype. if you expect kids can operate 3d printer or even design their own model is asking a little too much.

openprinter is easy to observe from safe distance. They can touch and play with shutdown printer but not running one. When I was kids we go to factory and research lab or musiums that all require hands off policy, and still learned what we need to learn.

You really need to just stop. Cut your losses and GTFO here. Ive had my kids design and print stuff at 5 years old. Safety is number one! Hands on learning is the best way to learn. Yes learning to level a bed and tightening a belt is part of learning about 3d printing. IF these kids get learn how from someone they hopefully wont be one of the various idiots in all the FB groups asking the same stupid questions over and over. Which means there will be less people like you giving out bad advise. HAving an enclosure would be best especially lockable. Normal class rooms are like 20-30 kids nowadays, Id like to see you keep an eye on that manys every single minute. Having the enclosure would permit them to print better stuff and have a higher range of materials to work with. It would even allow them to print bigger stuff which would run longer than a single class. Your bad advise has made you a running joke of the forum thank you for the laughs

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Kronikabuse wrote:
yizhou.he wrote:
Tin Falcon wrote:

Just please stop giving  bad advise .

wiring out of the way is out of the way side covers prevent reach through and doors that can be opened can be locked.
Only letting kids watch a shutdown printer teaches them nothing. Having a a hands off policy is fine but tough to enforce.
Kids are kids they are curious they want to experience thing this mean touching . A safe distance is also not going to teach them anything so you are suggesting an open printer and binoculars . just does not make sense.

I don't think the idea of the class is teach kids how to leveling the bed or tighten the belt. It is more about the concept of additive manufacture and fast prototype. if you expect kids can operate 3d printer or even design their own model is asking a little too much.

openprinter is easy to observe from safe distance. They can touch and play with shutdown printer but not running one. When I was kids we go to factory and research lab or musiums that all require hands off policy, and still learned what we need to learn.

You really need to just stop. Cut your losses and GTFO here. Ive had my kids design and print stuff at 5 years old. Safety is number one! Hands on learning is the best way to learn. Yes learning to level a bed and tightening a belt is part of learning about 3d printing. IF these kids get learn how from someone they hopefully wont be one of the various idiots in all the FB groups asking the same stupid questions over and over. Which means there will be less people like you giving out bad advise. HAving an enclosure would be best especially lockable. Normal class rooms are like 20-30 kids nowadays, Id like to see you keep an eye on that manys every single minute. Having the enclosure would permit them to print better stuff and have a higher range of materials to work with. It would even allow them to print bigger stuff which would run longer than a single class. Your bad advise has made you a running joke of the forum thank you for the laughs

Not saying it is not possible to teach kids 3d printing, it is just not easy with only one 3d printer for 20-30 kids and limited school time. I would expect 10-15 printer for class of 20-30 kids, and I don't think it can be done in one or two class.

unless the teacher is very imcompetent, I don't see how difficult it is to keep eye on 20-30 kids, school i go to had 40-60 kids in one class, and every kids sits on their chair in class and will not speak without permission.

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Re: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

yizhou.he wrote:
Kronikabuse wrote:
yizhou.he wrote:

I don't think the idea of the class is teach kids how to leveling the bed or tighten the belt. It is more about the concept of additive manufacture and fast prototype. if you expect kids can operate 3d printer or even design their own model is asking a little too much.

openprinter is easy to observe from safe distance. They can touch and play with shutdown printer but not running one. When I was kids we go to factory and research lab or musiums that all require hands off policy, and still learned what we need to learn.

You really need to just stop. Cut your losses and GTFO here. Ive had my kids design and print stuff at 5 years old. Safety is number one! Hands on learning is the best way to learn. Yes learning to level a bed and tightening a belt is part of learning about 3d printing. IF these kids get learn how from someone they hopefully wont be one of the various idiots in all the FB groups asking the same stupid questions over and over. Which means there will be less people like you giving out bad advise. HAving an enclosure would be best especially lockable. Normal class rooms are like 20-30 kids nowadays, Id like to see you keep an eye on that manys every single minute. Having the enclosure would permit them to print better stuff and have a higher range of materials to work with. It would even allow them to print bigger stuff which would run longer than a single class. Your bad advise has made you a running joke of the forum thank you for the laughs

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You must not have went to American public schools. There are times the teacher will actually step out to do things. Also depending on the grade in the US most grades up to 4 stay in the same room all day. However the time used to teach about the printer would only be about an hour or two per day. But you could easily break the class into small groups and give them all adequate exposure over the course of a week. Also while one group is having hands on the other groups can be learning theory, history, slicers, host, terminology, model design and development, and even gcode.

To be honest I would doubt students in their normal course of study would ever see a printer. The printer would be found in a course dedicated to manufacturing technology that would be an elective course. Elective courses usually run three hours in most cases and the classes are usually less than 20 students. So in that case it would be easy to give the full class hands on experience. Granted these would be high school level students but if I where a class developer I would not consider trying to teach 3D printing to any grade level below high school.

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Re: Looking for recommendation on a good 3D printer for classroom

carl_m1968 wrote:

You must not have went to American public schools. There are times the teacher will actually step out to do things. Also depending on the grade in the US most grades up to 4 stay in the same room all day. However the time used to teach about the printer would only be about an hour or two per day. But you could easily break the class into small groups and give them all adequate exposure over the course of a week. Also while one group is having hands on the other groups can be learning theory, history, slicers, host, terminology, model design and development, and even gcode.

To be honest I would doubt students in their normal course of study would ever see a printer. The printer would be found in a course dedicated to manufacturing technology that would be an elective course. Elective courses usually run three hours in most cases and the classes are usually less than 20 students. So in that case it would be easy to give the full class hands on experience. Granted these would be high school level students but if I where a class developer I would not consider trying to teach 3D printing to any grade level below high school.

I totally agree with Carl, I think 3d printing for kids below high school is just a demonstration in science class, might increase scientific visionary, the topic will eventually go into robotics and automation or something like that. 3D printing is just a tool for certain career and I would vote on more coding class over hands on 3D printing for little kids.

All my kids go to America public schools, but they all have 3-4 home room per grade. I imagine it all depend on school district and the area over the country. I think the 3D printer for demonstration need to be easy to move on a classroom cart, only bring in class room when needed, otherwise many creative object will get into the printer when teacher walk out of the room.

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