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Topic: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

I have a Da Vinci 1.0A and over the past few attempts to print an item I've encountered an issue. It will start my print and move on to making the supports. But after the first couple of layers its it goes nuts and start oddly like there is another item loaded i didn't know about. Attached are pictures are of what happens. It may be simple fix or an internal issue. Much help is appreciated.

side note: Ive done nothing to modify the programming except for a filament resetter.

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2 (edited by scobo 2018-01-12 04:36:57)

Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

Does it only happen with this particular item you're trying to print or does it happen with other files ?

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Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

It has only happened this one time. I designed it first time on tinkercad then remade it on fusion 360 and it did the same thing.

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Sounds to me like an issue with the file then. Could be that your slicer isn't slicing it correctly or the file has an error.
Can you upload the stl file here and I'll take a look for you.

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What is the best way to do that on here?

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I believe this should do the trick.



https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h0dvA … g_J5XgE9aS

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I found nothing wrong with the file. I ran it through a simulated print in Simplify3D and it ran fine. However that print is going to take 16 hours and it is not wise to leave a printer running that long unless you can be with it the entire time. . You may want to break it up and then glue it together. My guess is it is too large for XYZ to handle. Their slicer is garbage and freaks out on the tiniest things.

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My xyz Ware is putting it right at 3 hours. And this is supposed to be a cake walk compared to my previous prints like http://soliforum.com/i/?AaKXQjC.jpg

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alxjjohnson93 wrote:

My xyz Ware is putting it right at 3 hours. And this is supposed to be a cake walk compared to my previous prints like http://soliforum.com/i/?AaKXQjC.jpg

What is your infill percentage. I was testing st 100%.

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20% I think.  I was going easy on it just to finish this project

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alxjjohnson93 wrote:

20% I think.  I was going easy on it just to finish this project

I will try it on my CT'c with S3D and see what I get. After a few layers.

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Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

Have you ever used the anycubic i3 mega?

13 (edited by carl_m1968 2018-01-13 03:35:54)

Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

alxjjohnson93 wrote:

Have you ever used the anycubic i3 mega?


No I have not. As you can see in my signature I only have 3 printers and the CT'c would be the closest I have to that. The SLA works completely differently.

I let it run for several layers and it never did anything like what yours is doing so the file is not the issue. I would say your slicer just does not like that file. I took a pic but for some reason the forum won't let me post it right now. I will post later but o got about 3mm of the base done with no issues.

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Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

You could trying running the file through netfab but other than that, I think Carl's right, it looks like a slicer issue.

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Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

I appreciate the help guys. I’ll looking into reinstalling the program maybe that might help as a temporary fix.  I’m currently looking in getting the anycubic right now and using cura.

16 (edited by scobo 2018-01-13 04:17:11)

Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

The stock Davinci printers are pretty lame but with a little bit of modding they can be transformed into really good machines.
Throw in an E3D hotend, flash the firmware with repetier and you have an open source printer you can use with any slicer plus the print quality will be light years better !

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17 (edited by yizhou.he 2018-01-13 16:36:10)

Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

OK, Just share one of my wild guess. I think it is your wire harness issue with your Y axis motor. Check if your Y axis motor wire are connected securely and replace the wire if necessary. Da Vinci 1.0 wire harness is know to cause problem because it use wire that is not resistant to repeated bend.

If I guess it correct, your image is taking form the front, your hotend is dragged towards Y axis min by your filament. My speculation is your Y-axis motor is weak due to poor connection, every time it go to X min and Y max corner, or right toward door side corner, your filament spool drag back after pull to max tension. Normally if you Y-axis motor have enough torch, it will not go with it, but if y-axis motor cable also at max tension at this spot and if that is dragged loose or the cable connection is no good, it will become weak, your hotend will be dragged by filament.

The issue can seems to be fixed on its own but will come back at random time point, replace the wire harness will be more permanent solution. It can become more worse and you will get error 31 or something like that.

I know it is a wild guess based on limited information, but it doesn't hurt to test with multi-meters if you are confident with your skills.

Sorry about bad English, use your best guess if you are not sure what I meant to say.

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alxjjohnson93 wrote:

I appreciate the help guys. I’ll looking into reinstalling the program maybe that might help as a temporary fix.  I’m currently looking in getting the anycubic right now and using cura.

if you are confident, you can flash repetitor-firmware with your Da vinci 1.0A, and you will be able to use Cura directly.

I don't have anycubic mega i3 printer, but based on multiple people's comments, it is also a problematic machine, their custom service is good, but the cause of the problematic is unknown, so there is not much known mod to recommend to fix it. Read more people's experience on internet before make decision.

If you like anycubic mega i3 design, check out monoprice maker select v2 or monoprice maker select plus, they have heated bed issue and is noisy, but after z-brace mod and heat bed mod, it can be very reliable printer with high print quality.

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Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

yizhou.he wrote:

OK, Just share one of my wild guess. I think it is your wire harness issue with your Y axis motor. Check if your Y axis motor wire are connected securely and replace the wire if necessary. Da Vinci 1.0 wire harness is know to cause problem because it use wire that is not resistant to repeated bend.

If I guess it correct, your image is taking form the front, your hotend is dragged towards Y axis min by your filament. My speculation is your Y-axis motor is weak due to poor connection, every time it go to X min and Y max corner, or right toward door side corner, your filament spool drag back after pull to max tension. Normally if you Y-axis motor have enough torch, it will not go with it, but if y-axis motor cable also at max tension at this spot and if that is dragged loose or the cable connection is no good, it will become weak, your hotend will be dragged by filament.

The issue can seems to be fixed on its own but will come back at random time point, replace the wire harness will be more permanent solution. It can become more worse and you will get error 31 or something like that.

I know it is a wild guess based on limited information, but it doesn't hurt to test with multi-meters if you are confident with your skills.

Sorry about bad English, use your best guess if you are not sure what I meant to say.

He did say that this was the only model that did this. So that would exclude the machine as having any issues. Typically had it been on all models then having a 1.0 in the past I could tell you this would be caused by a bad endstop harness. As the machines sees each time that the endstop is triggered as a new homes position and starts from there. But since it only does this on this one file then the way the slicer is using the file is the issues and we all know that XYZ does not have good slicer on the 1.0 and 1.0A host.

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20 (edited by scobo 2018-01-13 16:46:47)

Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

Yup, 100% slicer problem.
I stopped using xyzware within a few weeks of getting my 1.0.
Simplify3d will work with a stock 1.0A, although it's not particularly cheap.
That said, it is a superb slicer. Possibly the best !

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I know it is a wild guess, but this model is positioned at extreme front right, which is unusual. And that's where the possible problem get triggered easily. if he print other model around the center, the problem may not be reproduced.

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yizhou.he wrote:

I know it is a wild guess, but this model is positioned at extreme front right, which is unusual. And that's where the possible problem get triggered easily. if he print other model around the center, the problem may not be reproduced.


That is the starting position his machine is set for. The STL file does not dictate where is starts as there is no positioning data in the STL.

That is done by the slicer when it generates the gcode. I tried printing his STL and it started in the center of my machine where my slicer says to start. In his case he has his start position set wrong and all of his prints will start there. Which this also points to an issue with his slicer.

My guess for starters is his X and Y dimensions are swapped in his slicer settings.

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Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

I don't think you can change X and Y dimensions or the start position in xyzware. All the settings are set for selected model, unless he use wrong printer model, there is little he can change.

What I meant is he put his problematic object in the corner that is easy to trigger the wire harness issue because filament and y-axis cable have max tension there. If he move the object to the center of print bed it will less likely to trigger the problem.

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Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

yizhou.he wrote:

I don't think you can change X and Y dimensions or the start position in xyzware. All the settings are set for selected model, unless he use wrong printer model, there is little he can change.

What I meant is he put his problematic object in the corner that is easy to trigger the wire harness issue because filament and y-axis cable have max tension there. If he move the object to the center of print bed it will less likely to trigger the problem.


He is not placing the object. Are you even listening to what we are saying? The object is being placed by his slicer based on the printer dimensions he has the slicer set for. My guess is that he has it set for a 1.0 or other model instead of a 1.0 A. As I said when I ran his STL it was centered because my slicer S3D is set correctly for my printer dimensions. He said he has printed other models with no issues and they should have been placed in the same spot. So again all the symptoms point to a software issue, not hardware. I know you like to consider all possibilities as a scientist but process of elimination here leaves only one thing it can be. The file is good. All other objects he prints are good. Unless he is making changes to his host per print then all prints are done in the same spot. So there is no mechanical or electrical issue either.

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25 (edited by yizhou.he 2018-01-13 21:06:45)

Re: Da Vinci 1.0A issues

carl_m1968 wrote:

He is not placing the object. Are you even listening to what we are saying? The object is being placed by his slicer based on the printer dimensions he has the slicer set for. My guess is that he has it set for a 1.0 or other model instead of a 1.0 A. As I said when I ran his STL it was centered because my slicer S3D is set correctly for my printer dimensions. He said he has printed other models with no issues and they should have been placed in the same spot. So again all the symptoms point to a software issue, not hardware. I know you like to consider all possibilities as a scientist but process of elimination here leaves only one thing it can be. The file is good. All other objects he prints are good. Unless he is making changes to his host per print then all prints are done in the same spot. So there is no mechanical or electrical issue either.

ah, I think I misunderstood your previous post. I agree this would happen if he used wrong printer model or wrong setting (the right half of the picture seems to suggest the printer model is correct). If he place all object at the same position and others prints are good, the possibility I mentioned above is not what happening.

my past experience with xyzware is by default the object is dropped in the center not in the bottom right as shown in his picture. And it is not easy to move the object. you need to click and select the object, the click icon in left and change the x axis number and y axis number manually and separately. That's why I think it is strange he have a object at bottom right.

However, I have not use xyzware for 3 month now, it may came up with option to change the default object drop position or even print bed dimension. It is also a well known buggy program, what you said is very likely to happen. But I don't think it is easy or cheap to switch slicer for Da vinci 1.0A to find out if it is the slicer problem. Move the object to center and try to print again is easy and fast. if the print works after move to the center, then it worth the effort to test the wire harness reliability to avoid more complicated issue in the future.

I'm not trying to question your judgement, just trying to offer alternative possibility in case there is easy solution.

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