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Topic: Extruder issue

Hello all, I recently purchased a Da Vinci 1.0a. I bought it even knowing that the printer requires u buy xyz filament. I researched and found out that I could use a cartridge resetter to be able to use 3rd party filament. I tried that but noticed that on some PLA the temperatures vary
Without being able to change temperatures, my extruder kept clogging and jamming while trying to print. I did a little more research and read about flashing the printer and installing repetier firmware. As I did a little more research I read that simplify 3d sofware can increase the exteuder and bed temperatures to whatever you need. I bought the program and started using it. The unit starts to print great but about half way thru my print the extruder get clogged and jammed again. It has done this with every 3rd party PLA filament I have. Any suggestions on settings that I have to change in simplify 3d program or any hardware changes that I have to to do to the printer. I just cant get 3rd party PLA filaments to work. Ur feedback would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Extruder issue

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Hello all, I recently purchased a Da Vinci 1.0a. I bought it even knowing that the printer requires u buy xyz filament. I researched and found out that I could use a cartridge resetter to be able to use 3rd party filament. I tried that but noticed that on some PLA the temperatures vary
Without being able to change temperatures, my extruder kept clogging and jamming while trying to print. I did a little more research and read about flashing the printer and installing repetier firmware. As I did a little more research I read that simplify 3d sofware can increase the exteuder and bed temperatures to whatever you need. I bought the program and started using it. The unit starts to print great but about half way thru my print the extruder get clogged and jammed again. It has done this with every 3rd party PLA filament I have. Any suggestions on settings that I have to change in simplify 3d program or any hardware changes that I have to to do to the printer. I just cant get 3rd party PLA filaments to work. Ur feedback would be greatly appreciated


The 1.0a cannot use PLA with the stock hotend. You have to buy their PLA hotend or modify your hotend by increasing the surface area of the heat break and adding a fan to blow directly on the heat break.. The issue is that heat creeps up the heat break and causes the PLA to swell inside the heat break and creating the jam you are having.

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Re: Extruder issue

No wonder when I changed the cartridge it asked me to swap my nozzle and recalibrate.

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Do u know where I could find the PLA hotend for this printer. I went their website and all I see is one extruder.

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Re: Extruder issue

I just replied to one of the other duplicate posts offering another option but Carl is right, the stock hotend can be fairly easily modded to work with PLA.
I did this with mine and it worked ok ....... for a while.
It became less and less reliable and in the end, I gave up and switched to an E3D hotend.
I believe there is now a simple "drop-in" mount for the E3D on Thingiverse.
The stock extruder is also very limited when it comes to printing certain filaments such as flexibles.
I also switched to my own extruder design and now have a machine that is probably on a par with printers costing 2 or 3 times it's price.

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Re: Extruder issue

This printer is still brand new and swapping the extruder to an E3d v6 or flashing the firmware and installing Repetier would not be an option. Id like to know where I could get the PLA hotend for this printer. Does it need PTFE in nozzle to guide the filament and stop it from swelling and jamming?

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Re: Extruder issue

If you're worried about voiding the warranty then don't be, it's not worth the paper it's written on.

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Lol its not that. Its just that its so new and I have so much to learn about it that it just scares me to do it. I have a CTC 3d printer that I tried to upgrade to E3d v6 extruders and had such a bad experience that i just put the old parts back on it and its been working great. It would be great to know where to get the PLA hotend for this printer. I go to their website and they only show one hotend. So I dont know if its  for PLA or ABS.

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Re: Extruder issue

ntxstormchaser wrote:

Lol its not that. Its just that its so new and I have so much to learn about it that it just scares me to do it. I have a CTC 3d printer that I tried to upgrade to E3d v6 extruders and had such a bad experience that i just put the old parts back on it and its been working great. It would be great to know where to get the PLA hotend for this printer. I go to their website and they only show one hotend. So I dont know if its  for PLA or ABS.


The ONLY place you can get parts for the Da Vinci series is from XYZ or somebody parting one out that sometimes list here or on ebay.

XYZ is just not a good company nor are their machines what I would call dependable without some work. I would urge people to do their homework before buying XYZ. Of course it's too late for you OP but there is hope, it just is a matter of how deep you want to dive into your learning.

Again, could you click on the new post link at the top of the page and see all the extra post you made on the same topic. Then delete them to avoid confusion.

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@carl, thanks for trying.  I guess I had nothing better to do than delete a bunch of duplicate posts.  roll

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Re: Extruder issue

i too was trying to print PLA, in the end I just accepted to use the existing extruder. but I have noticed that on PLA if the head is too close to the bed it cannot print, I had tor recalibrate, I wonder if it is different when the bed heats to a hotter temperature, I have also noticed that I have had to recalibrate (using the manual method with a strip of paper) a second time after doing some prints with PLA.
another trick is when loading the pla run extra through the extruder by pretending it hasnt loaded < arrow instead of OK, I did this about 5 times and it prints fine.
on a side note, I did notice that when you are looking for the extruder head, that the part number has changed and it is in some places described as the 'improved extruder head' I wonder if this is to handle the PLA better.
I cant find the difference in part numbers at the moment, but its a moot point because nowhere had any in stock, the price was $99

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The 1.0a is simply a 1.0 with the updated motherboard where they re-positioned the SDcard, removed the erase header. That was the only change and like the 1.0 regardless of what advertising says it is not designed to work with PLA. The heatbreak is not large enough to remove enough heat to keep the PLA from swelling in the neck. You might get lucky and it will print for a while. But if you ever try to run a print that runs 8 plus hours you will get jamming.

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