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Topic: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

I am ready to finally to make the switch to RH but am wondering if you guys experienced any negatives?

I read often of failing prints, adhesion problems, extrusion issues, etc. but have never experienced any of that with the machine stock.  There have been other issues but those are not for this thread.......

My longest print took 16... yes 16 hours and used up almost the entire bed and I never had any issues at all, banding, adhesion, extruding all went great.  This was using pronterface and skeinforge.

So the question is if some of these problems can be attributed to the software people are using.

Opinions?

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

RH/slic3r is just like switching to any other printing application, it needs to be dialed in to fit your printer.  Solidoodle has released profiles that assist with just like they do for pronto/skienforge.

I highly recommend switching over to RH.  At anytime you can use the original software by just opening it instead.

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

I want to be the last one using skeinforge and pronterface.  I'm holding out.

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

You must be very patient to wait for Skeinforge to do its thing.

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

I don't have as much time as a lot of you seem to have, so I'm not creating altogether that much while I'm in front of the machine.  Often times I'll use downtime at work (real or imagined downtime) and model something, and start slicing in the background.  So when I get home I just heat up the bed, load the gcode and go.  Weekends when I'm sitting there the kids are always competing for my attention so I can wait for it to slice and play with the kids while it chugs along.  Most of my printing is done after they go to sleep.

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

lawsy wrote:

You must be very patient to wait for Skeinforge to do its thing.

  Hahaha...so true...RH v Pront is like a iphone vs a corded bag-cell...

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

jefferysanders wrote:
lawsy wrote:

You must be very patient to wait for Skeinforge to do its thing.

  Hahaha...so true...RH v Pront is like a iphone vs a corded bag-cell...


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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

I find it depends... skeinforge's raft is good because you don't need to wait for the bed to heat up as much (often 60° will do), which can balance the fact that slicing is longer (waiting for the bed to reach 95° in RH takes long too)!

I don't think time is a real issue, as heating up time or slicing time is insignificant compared to the actual time required to design the parts (or to the print time for that matter).

On some parts I find skeinforge gives better results than slic3r, although most of the time slic3r is better, I believe 99% of slic3r advantages come from the fact it starts from inside rather than outside, which avoids having the messy blobs on the visible surface.

RH is a nice GUI, with the 3D view and stuff!

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

There's a setting for that in Skeinforge
Loops/Perimeter/Infill

http://s11.postimage.org/hmg9yacyb/order.jpg

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

Diecrusher wrote:

I am ready to finally to make the switch to RH but am wondering if you guys experienced any negatives?

I read often of failing prints, adhesion problems, extrusion issues, etc. but have never experienced any of that with the machine stock.  There have been other issues but those are not for this thread.......

My longest print took 16... yes 16 hours and used up almost the entire bed and I never had any issues at all, banding, adhesion, extruding all went great.  This was using pronterface and skeinforge.

So the question is if some of these problems can be attributed to the software people are using.

Opinions?

Some people have some issues installing the software in the first place. Also, it is kind of heavy as compared to pronterface.

Those are the only downsides I know.

Former Solidoodle employee, no longer associated with the company.

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

"thread sequence choice" ... whoa, I hadn't seen that one! ... because except this aspect, I find skeingorge overall more reliable than RH (I use both, RH is fancier, but skeinforge gives overall better results I find).

I'll test this tomorrow on the new part I'm designing (a replacement hairdryer outlet nozzle, using CATIAV5 multi section surfaces)

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

Harvey, did you know you can use Skeinforge within RH instead of Slic3r?

Should be the best of both worlds if that's what you prefer.

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

lawsy wrote:

Harvey, did you know you can use Skeinforge within RH instead of Slic3r?

Should be the best of both worlds if that's what you prefer.

You'll have to configure it a bit for the Solidoodle

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

cmetzel wrote:

I want to be the last one using skeinforge and pronterface.  I'm holding out.

I am still using those two as well, so I guess we will be competing against each other tongue

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15 Reply by Diecrusher (edited by Diecrusher 2013-02-11 19:12:36)

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Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?

Well, the switch to RH seemed to go pretty well - somethings I like and some that I don't but the ones I don't can probably be tweaked in with more time and experience.

Running on a 2008 MacBook, I had trouble with RH crashing about a minute or so after starting a print.  The crashing went away after I set RH graphics to their minimum so I am assuming the issues were perhaps with the antialiasing in RH and the integrated graphics on the MacBook.  I will try this same set up but with my 2011 MacBook Pro.

First thing I think that I will change will be the homing routine.... why is this necessary after each print anyways as long as you manually homed the machine at startup?  What am I missing here?

In pronterface I used to home x and y but left z at a safe distance above my glass bed clips.   I know that RH with solidoodle's .3mm and .1mm profiles zeros all three and then does a dump near the zero corner before it moves to start the print but I have seen no benefit at all to this as long as you do a simple manual extrude right before you start your print.

I've always manually managed my temperature setttings so the wait for temperature startup g-code seems unneccesary and dangerous to me.  The extruder heats up way before the table as we all know and lets the abs cook there while wait for the table to come to temperature.  Maybe that's why so many are having clogged extruders.  I guess that I will just change the start g-code to bring the extruder temp to 100c and then manually kick it up to 195c right before the print.

What do you guys think?

Thanks for all of your input.....