1 (edited by liqiuidstate 2016-02-16 11:19:49)

Topic: Cant print anything from new printer

Hi guys.

Thought id post here see if anyone can help.
I bought a Da Vinci 1.0 Pro last weekend and from the word go ive not been able to get anything to print out.

Ive tried the supplied ABS cartridge and 3rd party PLA but both have the same result.
Ive calibrated and checked the z axis offset with a sheet of paper.

Ive tried various models and different settings (fast and slow).
Different temps for both filaments.

The built in Demo samples make no difference

Ive been speaking to XYZ and they are getting me to do different things but im now getting to the point of sending it back to amazon.

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

You might have to check where the filament is going in.  There should be a wheel with a spring tensioner, it seems to me that you don't have enough tension to keep the filament flowing.

Da Vinci  AiO with firmware 1.1.1 using xyzscan 1.1.18
E3Dv6 hotend with custom carriage with Borosilicate glass bed
123D Design and Simplify3D, Replaced PS with a Solidgear Flex320
Zerokart resetter,  Installed a Extruder Controller for higher temps

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

OK i can try that.

I did mention to XYZ that it makes the tock sound every couple of seconds or so when printing and they said this.

"The ticking sound you are describing typically matches miscalibration (printhead being too close to the bed where the bed blocks the filament coming out of the nozzle while the feeding mechanism tries to push in more filament resulting in the ticking sound)."

dont know if peoples experiences with these printers if this is true or not, but they have never mentioned the tension on the filament

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

Also that looks like white filament that color is also a pain in the butt to print

Da Vinci  AiO with firmware 1.1.1 using xyzscan 1.1.18
E3Dv6 hotend with custom carriage with Borosilicate glass bed
123D Design and Simplify3D, Replaced PS with a Solidgear Flex320
Zerokart resetter,  Installed a Extruder Controller for higher temps

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

Yes, the clicking sound can be from having the bed too high.
Try lowering it slightly, a quarter turn to the right on all thumb screws.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

kev0175 wrote:

Also that looks like white filament that color is also a pain in the butt to print

But would that explain the gaps in the layers being white?

tried another just now

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its interesting the first couple of layers print ok just further ones dont

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My prints were coming out the same way at one time and I added a stronger spring and it corrected my problem it may be something else but I put my money on the tensioner.

Da Vinci  AiO with firmware 1.1.1 using xyzscan 1.1.18
E3Dv6 hotend with custom carriage with Borosilicate glass bed
123D Design and Simplify3D, Replaced PS with a Solidgear Flex320
Zerokart resetter,  Installed a Extruder Controller for higher temps

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

Could also be heat creep in the hot end if the fan blowing there is not working.

In addition, I believe the Pro is a bowden setup for the extruder, so make sure your filament path is unobstructed and smooth.

Also make sure your filament cartridge is feeding smoothly by itself. I always check this as I sometimes left the rubber stopper in and other times, especially with a new one, I had twisted filament inside the cartridge.

SD2 Expert stock, ABS fume fan,
XYZ DaVinci 1.0 stock ABS, Simplify3D
QUBD Two-Up PLA, new 3D printed X gantry, Y idler, flex z coupler, extruder mount, E3D Lite

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

as far as i can tell both cartridge and PLA spool are feeding ok.
The bowden tube looks ok but they mount the tube at an angle in the extruder which ive seen one guy on youtube change this to pointing up, saying it makes a difference.

not checked if the fan is working or not but can

question when loading is the filament meant to ooze out or rush out the nozzle?

I dont want to start making mods just yet as i still may just send it back.

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

When using the load function, it should extrude fairly quickly.
Much quicker than when printing, something like 2 or 3cm per second.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

ok cool just wanted to check thanks

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

well this is interesting...
I upped the temp to 230 for the ABS and made sure its def feeding ok and the extruder is clean
calibrated the bed and checked the Z axis with a business card.

and its come out ok with a layer height of 0.3. im sure i can get a better result but its a start considering i was getting crap

http://soliforum.com/i/?xacygkg.jpg

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

Arse now ive changed to PLA i cant get the bloody z-offset right.
Does anyone know what the best way on the PRO is to get the nozzle level right?

For the ABS I used a business card which seemed to work.
Im trying 2 sheets of A4 which almost gets there but if i change to 1 sheet or 2 i cant get it right..

Driving me mad

15 (edited by scobo 2016-02-21 15:58:20)

Re: Cant print anything from new printer

I tend to level by sight these days.
Start a print and watch the first layer like a hawk.
If doesn't look "squished" enough or it lifts from the bed, turn the screw at that part of the bed a quarter to the left to raise the bed slightly.
Then repeat till you get it right all the way round the first layer.
Once you've got it dialed in, you shouldn't have to touch it again unless you put a fair bit of pressure on the bed.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

ok thanks i will give that a go

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

Takes a bit of practice but after a while you'll get to know how the first layer should look and you won't need the paper method.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

At the moment im struggling to get it to put enough plastic down..
its coming out quite thin

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

Could you upload a pic of your first layer.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

ok will do but this is what i get alot
http://soliforum.com/i/?9Ymgt46.jpghttp://soliforum.com/i/?SY1Ofv9.jpghttp://soliforum.com/i/?FTznQ20.jpg

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

this is the best i get manage to get from this printer at he mo.
wish i knew what im doing wrong or if its an issue with the printer

http://soliforum.com/i/?sDipdaf.jpg

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

Difficult to tell from those images but somethings clearly not right.
What extruder temps are you using ?

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

this is BQ PLA which it recommend between 200 and 220.
im running these and 215

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

gonna try it at 200 as not done that yet.
i know 190 does not stick to the bed

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Re: Cant print anything from new printer

I was thinking your temp was maybe a bit low, judging by the pictures.
But 215°C sounds ok.
I use 205°C for PLA but 240°C for ABS.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs