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Topic: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

I received my atlas 3d scanner today, purchased from filastruder order 11553 on Nov 24th...I got the pi2 and acrylic options.
I live in the Republic of Panama so things take a bit of time to get here....
All parts seemed to be here, however the acrylic FC part is missing the rectangular hole oposite the motor... as well as the third drill hole fro the pi.. So I realized that the pi would be over the hole, and then  under a lid.. so I sawed a long channel with a small hacksaw and made a groove to slip the cable through...  the third hole was needless as the pi is resting on 2 screws and some suguru.. (the world needs fixing.).. first pic of the horrible although well hidden hole...
http://soliforum.com/i/?XxPfzd7.jpg

So I set everything up...
5v 2amp wall wart connected to the input...find a usb memory with 4 gigs of space, pluged it in it in... inserted wifi dongle to top right port(dont think it matters though) flick ed the on switch and   tadaaaa....
the pi's red button turns on, the green one does too the usb lights up...but no laser show  and no writing to the usb.
I then connected the hdmi to my tv and i get the following screen pic...

http://soliforum.com/i/?TsEpwEu.jpg

the camera red led does turn on after that...
... the programs stalls at port80? or is this ok....
.. have no idea if it should continue or stay there but after about 5 minutes nothing has been written to the usb and no lasers have flashed.. however I assume the sd card/pi work correctly as the pi recognized itself to be the atlas3d...
i checked the lasers on 5v and they work fine...
my pi and electronics both have the white stripe towards the motor...
here is the data in my usb in case my files rent up to date...
http://soliforum.com/i/?Czj4iLA.jpg

and my electronics connection.. just in case I missed something obvious..
http://soliforum.com/i/?7zTfuGn.jpg

Any ideas?

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

I'm happy to replace that part if needed, that's strange - I haven't seen the laser just skip a cutout like that before.

I sent an email with a couple things to check about your SD card, let me know if that helps.

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Have you tried to connect to the web interface? Has the Pi been assigned an IP address by your router?

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Hi betoarango,

The scanner software is indeed running and you should be able to access it on port 80.  Your kit was ordered before the release of the software update that performs the USB network configuration.  You can still use the command line to configure the WiFi adapter as shown in the instructions below.  Once you have a network connection, you should use the auto-update feature present in ATLAS 3D to update to the latest version of the software.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/atlas3d/Instru … pdf#page=7
http://www.soliforum.com/topic/13217/at … tructions/

- Uriah

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Thank you for your help.
I just read over the advanced user alternative, and being a complete newbie am completely intimidated by what i've read.. I have no idea what any of this means. So here goes the first (of probably  a barrage) question...
Where would I log in? at the command line after the port 80 line?
do I just write pi and then raspberry or do I separate it with a comma, or press enter between them...

Could a more newbie friendly alternative be to send me the file Ill download it to my computer.. copy it to the sd card and then put the card into the pi? This is something Id know how to do.

6 (edited by C_D 2016-01-05 22:49:13)

Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

You can do either way, whichever you are more comfortable with. I would suggest trying the command line instructions just because it is highly likely at some point you are going to carry out some instruction from the command line so its a good skill to have. Learning new things is what raspberry pi's are all about!

If you want to remove the SD card, you will need a PC running linux (or maybe a mac?) to access it on. Windows wont understand the file system. You would then navigate to the file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and open it in a text editor and make it look like this:

ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=netdev
update_config=1

network={
        ssid="YOUR_SSID"
        psk="YOUR_PASSWORD"
}

Alternatively from the screenshot you posted earlier I assume you have a monitor connected. If you also plug in a USB keyboard you are good to go.

Pressing <enter> from that screen it should prompt you for a login, so type

pi<enter>

It should then prompt for a password so type: *note your password characters are not displayed on the screen!

raspberry<enter>

And then you should get a prompt which looks something like:

pi@raspberrypi:~ $

Which means you are successfully logged in!

From here you then type:

sudo nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf<enter>

That will open up the file we want to edit in a simple text editor. You can then make the changes as described in the Atlas3D instructions. To exit the editor and save your changes press:

<ctrl>x
y
<enter>

And then restart your pi by typing:

sudo reboot<enter>

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OK..faced my fears..
.. so i logged in...
yaaay.. and actually was able to enter the config screen...
http://soliforum.com/i/?LMFMdws.jpg
network name:  JACKY
password: jacky123   
(shhhh its a secret password...)
double quotes all in place...
and saved to suggested conf  file...

did the ifdown,ifup command thingy... waited a full minute.. tic toc...
and did the ifconfig...
http://soliforum.com/i/?n8AECEC.jpg

opened chrome to http://127.0.01 then to http://255.0.0.0
and got errors...
did the what is my ip... 190.XXX.XXX.XXX
tried that as well...

backtracked to the previous screen and used startx
but my usb mouse (the one im currently using while I  type this) didnt  work... so another dead end in that direction....
http://soliforum.com/i/?BkZzmgZ.jpg

so much further than yesterday... any ideas?

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Nice work! Making progress.

It looks like the wifi configuration didn't work. That stuff about "daemon failed to start" means something went wrong somewhere.

The IP address 127.0.0.1 is just your local loop back address so that wont work to connect to your Pi over the network. Likewise 255.0.0.0 is a netmask which is something different again. When you get it working you should see an address like 192.168.x.x or maybe 10.1.x.x depending on how your home network is set up.

What wifi adapter are you using?

First check, login and type this and see what you get.

lsusb<enter>

For my setup I get:

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

So that shows that the Pi has found my wifi dongle and knows what it is.

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C_D  thanks for the suggestion...
using the one that camw with the kit...
http://soliforum.com/i/?JeC3Evs.jpg

mine sees the realtec semiconductor part.. dont know if it realizes it is a wifi dongle...
first is without it second is with it connected
http://soliforum.com/i/?9EqxRQ6.jpg

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Sorry I should have posted this link before. I'm just going through this procedure here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view … mp;t=44044

Next step is to see if the driver is loaded:

lsmod

Then see if the network interface is there:

ifconfig -all

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ifconfig -a differs greatly from the example...no wlan0 anywhere...
... empty lsmod directory does not look good... the example shows 15 or so items: mine shows none.... maybe that is also why the mouse did not work either...

http://soliforum.com/i/?vsUyTOv.jpg

Read through the rest of the document... what is raspian? is that the language of the Pi? Hopefully it can be windowized... i doubt anyone in The Republic of Panama has linux....

last time I was doing things at the command prompt I was using lotus123, and playing frogger,
...dont miss them much.... hmm

12 (edited by C_D 2016-01-06 05:28:02)

Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Raspbian is an operating system for the Raspberry Pi based on the Debian distribution of Linux. I assume that is what is running on your Atlas3D SD card though I dont actually have an Atlas3D so not 100% sure.

The lack of modules shown with lsmod is very strange, it might be time for someone with more experience with the Atlas3D image to chime in, but to me that doesn't look right.

After a quick search it seems others have also had trouble getting wifi working on the Atlas3D image, perhaps you have a simiar issue to this: http://www.soliforum.com/topic/12209/wifi-not-working/

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Thank you very much C_D you have been an awesome help.

I have PMed elmoret and the creator to see if they can offer some more personalized help, as the complete upgraded kit was directly purchased from Filastruder, so ideally here should be no compatibility/driver/module  issues with a correctly pre-loaded kit.

Thanks again C_D!

14 (edited by betoarango 2016-01-06 23:45:27)

Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

so there was some sort of problem with the sd card.
elmoret sent me a file, and showed me how to image burn it into an sd card, the pi turned on...lasers flickered got the murobo login program...
inserted it back into the pi...
http://soliforum.com/i/?BpVcUxD.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?GRo4tx6.jpg

howver it still seems the pi does not see the dongle as a wifi adapter...
http://soliforum.com/i/?XvhoAmK.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?uqKoulS.jpg

so it might be that C_Ds suggested topic might be also my problem...
http://www.soliforum.com/topic/12209/wifi-not-working/

however I naively opened the pi webpage explaining what to do...
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view … 300fd61b5d
You must be kidding me...  hmm
really you must be kidding me....

Am I on TV? 
Is this some sort of show....

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Hah! I feel your frustration. Lets wait for Uriah to get here, he should be able to get this sorted out quickly.

16 (edited by hairu526 2016-01-07 13:09:05)

Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Hi betoarango,

The Pi sees your WiFi adapter and has loaded the correct driver for it.  The 8188eu in your lsmod output is the loaded WiFi adapter driver.  The "0bda:0179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp" is it showing up on the USB bus.  The problem seems to be either wireless signal or password related.  Is the scanner close to the WiFi access point?  Does your password consist of all alphanumeric characters? Also, are your lasers coming on now when you insert a USB flash drive?

On an unrelated note, you may want to check the connection of your motor wires.  The black one looks loose in the photo.

Uriah

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

motor wires reconnected and checked... that was awesome... didnt actually feel aboslutely lost and out of my element....

Checked directly under the router.... sees the network but tells me the password is incorrect
tried connecting to my android cel phones hotspot.. saw the network password incorrect
tried the open at work sees the network but says the password is incorrect..
did each several times verifyung caps lock was  not activated...and tried it one with caps lock just in case...
my passwords are all alphanumeric jackie123 for example...
my web details according to my cell phone are JACKY (ALL CAPS) 117 mbps/WPA/WPA-PSK  192.1680.104
I just reset my wifi settings on this computer to make sure my cel hotspot and wifi passwords were correct...

The lasers come on when i turn on the switch insert the usb.. but only for the first time..  after I take out the usb put in the code and put in back they will not turn on again...
reconecting the usb to the computer (even after several minutes) generates the morobo error screenshot wrong password
http://soliforum.com/i/?VKkgRM5.jpg

I am also  unable to update the password in the raspberry operting system.. it will detect and suggest the wifi adress JACKY but it will not accept my password... the sumo nano /etc/supplicant.conf  alternative does not work either...

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Tried looking in other Raspberry Pi support websites and one of the reccurent suggestions was the use
of  a 9v  charger as opposed to my current 5v 2amp wall wart.
I will give this a try tonight, see if my problem stems from a lack of juice...
hmm

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

I don't believe the Raspberry Pi can tolerate 9 volts...

Can you post your /etc/supplicant.conf file here?

Can you connect to your network if you disable security (the password)?

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

totally correct.. looks they were coonnecting this through a reducing voltage regulator... 
thanks for the save...
smile

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elmoret wrote:

Can you post your /etc/supplicant.conf file here?
would that be this?
http://soliforum.com/i/?CXT4Ekl.jpg
If not just tell me how and I will try it..

Can you connect to your network if you disable security (the password)?
Dont think I can disable password... however I tried it in 3 different sites (home, hotspot, work) where I know the password..
I made sure of this because I disconnected my cell phone and reconected it using the same password. i will see if my cell phone hotspot can work wothout a password. If so I will try it...

Also I tried it using all 3 methods.. however the wifi adapter must be working in some measure since the Murobo setup program (using the usb) does in fact give me JACKY as one of the network suggestions to connect to...

thanks for the continued help.

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

just googled it and my cellphone does have the option to allow my hotspot  to connect to any device (I assume without password).. I will test it as soon as I get home.

You have no idea how over my head I am on this....

Also just became a member... as opposed to newbie...

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Betoarango,

Let me know if you are still unable to connect.  We will do everything we can to get you up and running.

Uriah

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Re: Lasers not working, Usb not written to...

Was unable to remove the pasword from my hotspot...

Turned on the adtlas3
Inserted the wifi dongle(also tried the exact procedure with the wifi dongle preinserted)
inserted usb
lasers turned on, turned off 5 secs or so later
removed usb
inserted into my win10 laptop (also into my winxplaptop and win8 desktop)
beto-red-note (my hotspot was one fo the options available, also tried it for my home wifi)
chose it
updated password, saved, ejected usb correctly
just for laughs turned on my laptop, erased the wifi... reconected using same password...
reinserted usb into 3d
lasers turn on for about 30 secs then turn off
remove usb put it in win10/winxp/win8 computers
get...http://soliforum.com/i/?UcKlQ9R.jpg

bang head on desk...
repeat...

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Re-googled how to open a wifi hotspot and was found i has skipped a step...was able to leave hotspot open..
http://soliforum.com/i/?FsHkoth.jpg
redid everything exactly as before...
turned on,inserted usb, lasers turned on 5 secs removed usb, connected to win10
selected open network, tried to save.. but A password must be entered sign appeared.. put in a space and it accepted it..
(the second time around I erased it in  the notepad view of atlas3d_cfg file where it appeared)
loaded usb into atlas 3d, lasers turned on for 5 secs or so, removed usb.. got the original murobo screen.. no red letters... but no connect button either...
http://soliforum.com/i/?VOfCdIh.jpg