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Topic: Finaly fitted my E3D hotend

This was a pain in the ass project.

I bought a E3D on ebay for about $20 and thought it would work great, but there was a problem.

The Ebay hotend has this connector on top making it impossible to fit it into the printed conversionparts.

Without the connector the filament will fold inside the hotend filament-tube so you need the connector to make it work.


After alot of hours I bought a new connector and started to grind it down and cutting it to the right length.

phhhew. Now its printing soo damn nice!

But I have a question. If adding the blue tape on the bed. How to set an offset for the Z axis in simplify3d to compensate for the thickness?

http://soliforum.com/i/?4k4jYKx.jpg

Big nasty connector
http://soliforum.com/i/?AaESAGv.jpg

With no connector installed, no luck on the print due to bent and folded filament inside the tube.
http://soliforum.com/i/?ItwSBnF.jpg

Looks good!
http://soliforum.com/i/?PfcGWga.jpg

Time to do some lathing smile
http://soliforum.com/i/?xXal2bB.jpg

Perfect fit!!
http://soliforum.com/i/?IJnDmu8.jpg

This will work!
http://soliforum.com/i/?oA0VYqE.jpg

First testprint.

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Re: Finaly fitted my E3D hotend

In your FFF settings screen, go to the G-Code tab. At the lower left corner you'll see Global G-Code Offsets.  Add a positive value to your Z-axis, whatever the thickness of the blue tape is.

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That isn't an E3D hotend by the way, its a clone. Real E3D hotends don't have that big bulky connector sticking out of the top. Real E3Dv6 hotends also don't put PTFE in the hotzone, which I'm betting that one does.

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Landin81 wrote:

But I have a question. If adding the blue tape on the bed. How to set an offset for the Z axis in simplify3d to compensate for the thickness?

I would simply adjust the height of the bed with the adjusters under the bed as the adjustment won't be very much.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
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Thanx guys. Scobo, ye but than I have to do a cali everytime I want to switch between Abs and PLA.

Also, before I did the conversion, the auto calibrate worked fine, and the Z-axis is compensating for the different heights when the bed has different heights in the corners. BUT, now I cant run the auto cali any more, but the compensations for the Z is still there after I did a new manual calibration. How to get rid of it?

Yes its clone, but damn its good!

http://soliforum.com/i/?oIl1PCa.jpg

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Well, it would at least be good to call it a clone in your post. Implying it is a genuine E3D is a slap in the face of the guys that actually produce innovation in 3D printing, as opposed to the companies in China that do nothing but copy the hard work of others.

Additionally buying clones helps put those innovators out of business. Brian Reifsnyder, inventor and producer of the J-head hotend, has already stopped research and development on new hotends as a result of the Chinese cloners. He also said he plans to close up shop at the end of the year, for the same reason.

The clones are also a violation of the open source license that E3D releases their product under. Buying clones will eventually push more and more companies to move to closed source as a means of protecting their work.

You may think I have a conflict of interest as I sell E3D hotends. I don't care if you buy a hotend from me or not, or if you buy an E3D hotend at all. Just sharing as someone that has been 3D printing for a long time now, and seen brilliant minds come and go because China churns these (very variable in quality) copies out paying people pennies an hour.

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Well, I didnt know that it was a copy until I got it in the mail. I didnt do any research before I bought it. I was going to build a printer from scrap but after I got it in the mail I google it and saw people had install it in to the da vinci.

But love it, and is the original better I will buy one for sure.

elmoret wrote:

Well, it would at least be good to call it a clone in your post. Implying it is a genuine E3D is a slap in the face of the guys that actually produce innovation in 3D printing, as opposed to the companies in China that do nothing but copy the hard work of others.

Additionally buying clones helps put those innovators out of business. Brian Reifsnyder, inventor and producer of the J-head hotend, has already stopped research and development on new hotends as a result of the Chinese cloners. He also said he plans to close up shop at the end of the year, for the same reason.

The clones are also a violation of the open source license that E3D releases their product under. Buying clones will eventually push more and more companies to move to closed source as a means of protecting their work.

You may think I have a conflict of interest as I sell E3D hotends. I don't care if you buy a hotend from me or not, or if you buy an E3D hotend at all. Just sharing as someone that has been 3D printing for a long time now, and seen brilliant minds come and go because China churns these (very variable in quality) copies out paying people pennies an hour.

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Landin81 wrote:

Thanx guys. Scobo, ye but than I have to do a cali everytime I want to switch between Abs and PLA.

Also, before I did the conversion, the auto calibrate worked fine, and the Z-axis is compensating for the different heights when the bed has different heights in the corners. BUT, now I cant run the auto cali any more, but the compensations for the Z is still there after I did a new manual calibration. How to get rid of it?

Yes its clone, but damn its good!

http://soliforum.com/i/?oIl1PCa.jpg


Once your Z height is set it is the same for PLA or ABS.. Should be around .15mm for a .3mm layer height. You should not need to calibrate the height when change types or rolls. You WILL and MUST calibrate the temp and feed multiplier for each and every roll you change out. Even the same color by the same vendor. This is common practice and we all deal with it.

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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Landin81 wrote:

Well, I didnt know that it was a copy until I got it in the mail. I didnt do any research before I bought it. I was going to build a printer from scrap but after I got it in the mail I google it and saw people had install it in to the da vinci.

That's fair. I wish they were more clear about what they're selling, I agree it is confusing. Sorry for the soapbox rant in your thread, I just recently heard about Brian closing up shop and it was sad to hear.

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carl_m1968 wrote:

Once your Z height is set it is the same for PLA or ABS.. Should be around .15mm for a .3mm layer height. You should not need to calibrate the height when change types or rolls. You WILL and MUST calibrate the temp and feed multiplier for each and every roll you change out. Even the same color by the same vendor. This is common practice and we all deal with it.

He's saying he needs to add the thickness of the painters tape when using PLA, but is not using the painters tape for ABS.

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Hmm. I think you are wrong. If printing PLA with the blue painters tape sticked on to the bed, the bed will be higher than without the tape when printing ABS. So I need to set an Z-offset when printing with PLA, and no offset when printing with ABS.

carl_m1968 wrote:

Once your Z height is set it is the same for PLA or ABS.. Should be around .15mm for a .3mm layer height. You should not need to calibrate the height when change types or rolls. You WILL and MUST calibrate the temp and feed multiplier for each and every roll you change out. Even the same color by the same vendor. This is common practice and we all deal with it.

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Landin81 wrote:

Hmm. I think you are wrong. If printing PLA with the blue painters tape sticked on to the bed, the bed will be higher than without the tape when printing ABS. So I need to set an Z-offset when printing with PLA, and no offset when printing with ABS.

carl_m1968 wrote:

Once your Z height is set it is the same for PLA or ABS.. Should be around .15mm for a .3mm layer height. You should not need to calibrate the height when change types or rolls. You WILL and MUST calibrate the temp and feed multiplier for each and every roll you change out. Even the same color by the same vendor. This is common practice and we all deal with it.


Well see that's where your issue is.. I use hairspray on hot glass and no matter what material I print it sticks then just lifts off once cool. Using hair spray or even glue stick on glass eliminates the need to adjust between changing filament types.

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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I use glue stick or hair spray as well on my glass depending on what I print

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I find the glue stick works great with PLA once it's gone dry and slightly rough after a few applications.
Seems to grip the rough surface better.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
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hairspray on glass, or even better PEI, has always worked for me. Love the glass like finish it leaves on the bottom too.

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What kind of temperature do you guys use when printing PLA and use the gluestick?

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Re: Finaly fitted my E3D hotend

I use 75 for PLA and glue. 60 for hairspray. The nice thing about hairspray is one application is good for about 10 prints before needing refreshing.

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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60 for PLA with glue.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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yah I use 60 as well for pla

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Thanx guys! Im running my first real PLA print now and it seems to come out damn good smile

Using blue painters tape and ofset 0.2 on the z-axis for a test.

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Re: Finaly fitted my E3D hotend

Just finished a 2.5 hour ABS print only to realise I forgot to turn on the extruder fan.
Interestingly, it came out fine !
Just goes to show how good a job the E3D heatsink does of cooling.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
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I did download and print a coolingfanmount but there aint any airflow through it =/
I will add a fan without any channels that preventing the airflow next time..

This is my first PLA print. Its a 20x20x20mm testprintbox.

How do I increase the walls so it can be exactly 20mm? Add some on the extrusion width?

http://soliforum.com/i/?IijY2BK.jpg

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Landin81 wrote:

I did download and print a coolingfanmount but there aint any airflow through it =/
I will add a fan without any channels that preventing the airflow next time..

This is my first PLA print. Its a 20x20x20mm testprintbox.

How do I increase the walls so it can be exactly 20mm? Add some on the extrusion width?

http://soliforum.com/i/?IijY2BK.jpg


You have to edit your steps per mm in your firmware for each axis. However that measurement you have there is normal and average for these printers. An error of +/- .1 is normal as the next roll you use could be closer or worse due to due to shrinkage. You will never be able to print an exact 20.00mm cube with two different rolls of filament.

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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Generally I don't recommend changing the steps per mm. That is calculated off the  gear size. you run into compounding error compensation if you do that.

Instead you should use the xy size compensation located in your slicer.

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My extrusion multiplier is set to 0.90 on PLA, and on ABS profile its set to 1.0, can that be a different for the prints?

mark.burton wrote:

Generally I don't recommend changing the steps per mm. That is calculated off the  gear size. you run into compounding error compensation if you do that.

Instead you should use the xy size compensation located in your slicer.