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Topic: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

Hey all,

Ive had a few serious tries at getting Gcode from Slic3r or Cura to work with XYZware, without any success.
After seeing CraftWare and playing around with the options, I really like the program but cant figure out how to properly modify the Gcode.
Each of these slicers seem to have slightly different Gcode, so I'm not entirely sure what to modify and really dont want to damage anything.  I have modified the Gcode according to tutorials here on the forums and on youtube, but the .3w is blank in XYZware with 'null' listed for all the information.

I could not get CraftWare to communicate with my 1.0.  Is it possible to print directly from CraftWare, or do I have to convert the file and use XYZware?
I am printing via USB cable, havent attempted the SD card hack.  Is this a problem?


Here is the original beginning Gcode from CraftWare:
; GCode generated by CraftWare

G28 X0 Y0
G28 Z0

M190 S90 ;set and wait bed temperature
M109 S210 ;set and wait head temperature
; ------------------------------------
; Layer #0
; ------------------------------------
G21 ; mm
G90 ; abs
G92 E0 ; reset extr
G1 F4800 E-1.0000
G1 Z0.300 F300
G1 X-22.487 Y27.236 F10800
G1 F4800 E0.0000
G1 X-17.501 E0.2488 F600
G1 X-17.313 Y27.556 E0.2672
G1 Y27.811 E0.2800
G1 X-17.189 Y27.938 E0.2889
G1 Y28.194 E0.3016
G1 X-16.628 Y29.151 E0.3569
G1 X-16.379 Y29.406 E0.3747
G1 X-16.254 Y29.662 E0.3889
G1 X-16.316 Y30.108 E0.4114
G1 Y33.426 E0.5770


Should this header simply be added to the top?
; filename = composition.3w
; machine = daVinciF10
; material = abs
; layer_height = 0.2
; total_layers = 173
; total_filament = 0.00
; extruder = 1


Some additional information;
I have set the print bed size to 200x200x270mm (XYZ) with 0,0 position on bed being center in CraftWare.
Windows 7 64-bit, DaVinci 1.0 software v1.1.31.7 and printer v1.2.3.
Sorry for the newbie Gcode questions.
Thanks in advance!

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Re: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

Why not flash to Repetier firmware? Then you can use Repetier host and standard STL and gcode files compatible with most slicers.

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Re: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

carl_m1968 wrote:

Why not flash to Repetier firmware? Then you can use Repetier host and standard STL and gcode files compatible with most slicers.

No reason other than I am slowly trying to become more advanced without getting in too deep smile
It does *seem* a tad invasive of a process to flash with Repetier firmware, but I can certainly see how it is better.   I will look into it more, this seems to be a good tutorial;
http://voltivo.com/forum/davinci-firmwa … -video-tut

Is that the only way to get the Gcode to work with the 1.0?
By using the Repetier host, is the XYZware no longer needed?

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Re: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

Double A wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:

Why not flash to Repetier firmware? Then you can use Repetier host and standard STL and gcode files compatible with most slicers.

No reason other than I am slowly trying to become more advanced without getting in too deep smile
It does *seem* a tad invasive of a process to flash with Repetier firmware, but I can certainly see how it is better.   I will look into it more, this seems to be a good tutorial;
http://voltivo.com/forum/davinci-firmwa … -video-tut

Is that the only way to get the Gcode to work with the 1.0?
By using the Repetier host, is the XYZware no longer needed?

Repetier is a stand alone host and uses built in Slic3r which is much better than XYZ. But no XYZ will no longer be used and can be deleted.

You can also use other slicers and just import the gcode in to Repetier host. 


I was just suggesting it as it would save you much grief and trouble from what you are attempting to do now. Repetier firmware also reduces motor wear and heating by properly managing motor current unlike the stock firmware. The noise reduction alone is worth the jump for many.. You will barely hear the machine in the same room once Repetier Firmware is installed.

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carl_m1968 wrote:

Repetier is a stand alone host and uses built in Slic3r which is much better than XYZ. But no XYZ will no longer be used and can be deleted.

You can also use other slicers and just import the gcode in to Repetier host. 


I was just suggesting it as it would save you much grief and trouble from what you are attempting to do now. Repetier firmware also reduces motor wear and heating by properly managing motor current unlike the stock firmware. The noise reduction alone is worth the jump for many.. You will barely hear the machine in the same room once Repetier Firmware is installed.

Thank you for the info.  Being my printer is just over a year old and a bit more noisy than it used to be, I will definitely familiarize myself with Repetier.  I feel incredibly limited with XYZware but it has done its job getting me started.

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Re: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

You can convert Gcode to 3W by opening the Gcode in Notepad++ and at the top encode it with 64 bit encoding, then save it as a .3w

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Re: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

Have you considered slic3r? I know you said you like craftware but theres config files for slic3r where you just change the temp to pla/abs settings then pick supports or not and off you go. save it as g code, then open it with the xyz ware open mod and save it without editing. Works every time. And saves you encoding anything specifically yourself (not that its difficult). If you want I can send you the config file I use and it works with pla/abs whichever settings (depending if your model does pla).

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custom.made wrote:

Have you considered slic3r? I know you said you like craftware but theres config files for slic3r where you just change the temp to pla/abs settings then pick supports or not and off you go. save it as g code, then open it with the xyz ware open mod and save it without editing. Works every time. And saves you encoding anything specifically yourself (not that its difficult). If you want I can send you the config file I use and it works with pla/abs whichever settings (depending if your model does pla).


I think he wants the ability to dictate where the supports go and such. Craftware allows you to move them around, add your own and take others away.

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I see. Not sure if slic3r allows that. It does however allow for degree setting which is a lot better then xyz that seems to want to support the whole model!

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I see. Not sure if slic3r allows that. It does however allow for degree setting which is a lot better then xyz that seems to want to support the whole model!

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Re: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

Thank you for the replies. 
With a lot of help over at the CraftWare forum, I recently was able to get modified gcode from CraftWare to work in XYZware!  I am putting together a simple tutorial on how to do this smile 
The most important parts are adding the correct header and footer gcode in CraftWare and editing/encoding the gcode to .3w format in Notepad++.
Surprisingly, it's a fairly straightforward process.

So far I love CraftWare.  It gives you a lot of control over support and print settings, and editing or drawing new supports is quick and easy.  I'm still trying to get the temperature settings to work as intended.

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Re: Gcode to .3w questions (CraftWare)

Double A wrote:

Thank you for the replies. 
With a lot of help over at the CraftWare forum, I recently was able to get modified gcode from CraftWare to work in XYZware!  I am putting together a simple tutorial on how to do this smile 
The most important parts are adding the correct header and footer gcode in CraftWare and editing/encoding the gcode to .3w format in Notepad++.
Surprisingly, it's a fairly straightforward process.

So far I love CraftWare.  It gives you a lot of control over support and print settings, and editing or drawing new supports is quick and easy.  I'm still trying to get the temperature settings to work as intended.

Hi- Just checked out CraftWare after reading your posts- I've still got some time  left on my warrantee so looking for non-flashing alternatives to xyzware!- very interested in how you get it  to work with a daVinci

Peter

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petersach wrote:

Hi- Just checked out CraftWare after reading your posts- I've still got some time  left on my warrantee so looking for non-flashing alternatives to xyzware!- very interested in how you get it  to work with a daVinci

Peter

Hey Peter, sorry for the delay, I just posted the tutorial.
Here's the link:
http://www.soliforum.com/post/109276/#p109276