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Topic: Reluctance to Flash.

Lets be honest guys, by now all of you have seen the stories. XYZ has horrible customer service and are known to try and weasel out of warranty claims or make it next to impossible to make one.

So stop wasting time and just flash these things already.

By doing so you gain the ability to use third party filament, much, and I mean much lower noise, a quality difference of night and day, and less wear and tear on your motors as the current is better managed.

I mean the gains are worth it. heck the reduction in noise alone was worth it to me.

Just flash and stop messing with resetters and hacking gcode. Waiting for your warranty to run out is just prolonging your agony as we all know by know your warranty means a hill of beans to XYZ. Furthermore if you did not by it from Amazon, Microcenter, or one of their very few other authorized dealers. Ebay does not count, you have no warranty.

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well said I think I would have been supper frustrated by now if I had not flashed my aio.

There software doesn't even use all your carts up. I can print with what ever I want and now mod it to my hearts content.
true no support from xyz but .... I never found their support to be of much help anyway.

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Got to agree with that Carl.
I struggled away with stock firmware for maybe 6 months and I wish I'd switched to repetier much sooner.
It just doesn't make sense not to switch when you consider the benefits and it's easy enough to go back to stock should you need to.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs

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just to clarify, you only can revert to stock FW on first generation, so far on new generation 1.0a/2.0a and AiO there is no way I know to revert to stock, because the FW is somehow encrypted and cannot be flashed as it is.

5 (edited by scobo 2015-09-06 06:40:57)

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Ah, thanks for pointing that out Luc.
I'd still highly recommend flashing those models though.

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I have a one month old DaVinci 1.0a that i will be flashing if i can find out all the info on how. I found i have the bad new firmware 1.0.1 and older videos on flashing were saying this one was not currently flashable, but it sounds like they are. I will start my research into it tomorrow, but for now are there any big tips or guides you can point me towards?

Thank you! Looking forward to not getting crap prints and having some control!

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Yes they are, you just have to jumper the right pin.

Then download the Arduino software and firmware.

You can get the firmware here.

https://github.com/luc-github/Repetier-Firmware-0.92

Follow the installation instructions and it will be fine.

Do it you know you want to.

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This is my first post to the forum. I just purchased a Da Vinci 1.0 AiO, despite all the bad things I've heard about it, because reading around the Net I became convinced it could be usable if used properly. So I have not even unboxed it yet (because I need to use it at another location), but I've already started searching for tips and hints, and found this forum. I've been taking notes and bookmarking posts left and right for the past two hours. (I'm particularly looking forward to trying carl_m1968's calibration technique.)

Just from what I've read so far, though, I remain unconvinced, because of two words that I've seen popping up in reference to the AiO: "no scanning." Does this literally mean what I fear it means? Will this literally render scanning unusable? Because that's sure what this sounds like:

scanner function is not supported so AiO will work like an 1.0A

If so, I would think that would merit a bold-faced caveat.

And if that is the case, which I would think would make flashing out of the question for the the 90% (?) of AiO owners who do not already own a better scanner, are there posts I've missed that specifically help AiO users "mess with resetters and hack gcode"?

Thanks in advance for any help!

P.S.: I bought mine here in Japan, through Amazon.co.jp, and apparently the support is no better here, judging from the furious reviews.

New owner of a Da Vinci 1.0 AiO; plan on using it mostly to make parts for lightsabers.

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you are correct that flashing to the firmware will make the scanner useless.

if you want to use the scanner you will need to stay on xyz's firmware

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Just so you know in honesty the built in scanner is garbage. it will not scan anything or part that is less than 2 inches. You also need to have every surface matt ot flat finished meaning having to cover everything in Talcum powder before scanning it use flocking spray made just for scanning. You get much better results from the Kinect and Scanect software and can scan much much smaller and much larger items. Most who have bought the Aoi around here have given up on the scanner and flashed to get better quality prints.

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Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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I agree there.

I have the aio and well I never got usable scans from anything that I would want to scan.

The repetier software is so much nicer to work with.

Gives you a lot more freedom on filament as well.

Luc put a lot of working into making it work. and the latest version has good support for the aio.

No scanning but really it isn't a big loss.

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I'm just amazed people are still buying the AiO given all the bad press it's had.

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
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scobo wrote:

I'm just amazed people are still buying the AiO given all the bad press it's had.

@ scobo  I can't speak for anyone but myself I never upgraded my firmware on my AiO and I'm using the xyzscan that came with my machine and my scan are very good. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

Da Vinci  AiO with firmware 1.1.1 using xyzscan 1.1.18
E3Dv6 hotend with custom carriage with Borosilicate glass bed
123D Design and Simplify3D, Replaced PS with a Solidgear Flex320
Zerokart resetter,  Installed a Extruder Controller for higher temps

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littlenemo1905 wrote:

This is my first post to the forum. I just purchased a Da Vinci 1.0 AiO, despite all the bad things I've heard about it, because reading around the Net I became convinced it could be usable if used properly. So I have not even unboxed it yet (because I need to use it at another location), but I've already started searching for tips and hints, and found this forum. I've been taking notes and bookmarking posts left and right for the past two hours. (I'm particularly looking forward to trying carl_m1968's calibration technique.)

Just from what I've read so far, though, I remain unconvinced, because of two words that I've seen popping up in reference to the AiO: "no scanning." Does this literally mean what I fear it means? Will this literally render scanning unusable? Because that's sure what this sounds like:

scanner function is not supported so AiO will work like an 1.0A

If so, I would think that would merit a bold-faced caveat.

And if that is the case, which I would think would make flashing out of the question for the the 90% (?) of AiO owners who do not already own a better scanner, are there posts I've missed that specifically help AiO users "mess with resetters and hack gcode"?

Thanks in advance for any help!

P.S.: I bought mine here in Japan, through Amazon.co.jp, and apparently the support is no better here, judging from the furious reviews.

I suggest don't upgrade until you know what the machine is doing. My scanner I never upgraded and my scans are coming out real good. Also using xyzscan that came with my machine.

Da Vinci  AiO with firmware 1.1.1 using xyzscan 1.1.18
E3Dv6 hotend with custom carriage with Borosilicate glass bed
123D Design and Simplify3D, Replaced PS with a Solidgear Flex320
Zerokart resetter,  Installed a Extruder Controller for higher temps

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kev0175 wrote:

I suggest don't upgrade until you know what the machine is doing. My scanner I never upgraded and my scans are coming out real good. Also using xyzscan that came with my machine.

Thanks! I've already bought a can of developer to whiten/dull the surface. I'll try it and see how it goes.

New owner of a Da Vinci 1.0 AiO; plan on using it mostly to make parts for lightsabers.

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littlenemo1905 wrote:
kev0175 wrote:

I suggest don't upgrade until you know what the machine is doing. My scanner I never upgraded and my scans are coming out real good. Also using xyzscan that came with my machine.

Thanks! I've already bought a can of developer to whiten/dull the surface. I'll try it and see how it goes.

If the scans are not good you can try an earlier ver of xyzscan. I'm using ver 1.1.18

Da Vinci  AiO with firmware 1.1.1 using xyzscan 1.1.18
E3Dv6 hotend with custom carriage with Borosilicate glass bed
123D Design and Simplify3D, Replaced PS with a Solidgear Flex320
Zerokart resetter,  Installed a Extruder Controller for higher temps

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Im curious if you guys that are saying the Aio scans are good have seen scans from the FreeLS or even the Kinect/Scanect setups? I have, and I can not even consider an Aio scan to be mediocre at best compared to those. The Kinect setup can be done for under $50 bucks on top of that.

I was curious if those claiming it did good scans had any grounds of comparison against other open source and cheap scanner hardware?

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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OK, I am one of the holdouts on flashing my 1.0A.  I really want to but understand it is a one way trip for me.

I have a couple of questions on some things I would like to firm up before taking the plunge:

1.  I use Simplify 3d.  I know you can use another slicer but I like this one atm.  Anyway can someone who has a 1.0A confirm that Simplify3D works well?

2.  If I flash it to Rep. will I need to keep the computer on or does it upload to the printer like it does now?  I feel I should know this but for some reason I don't.

Thanks

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Simplify 3D
E3DV6

19 (edited by scobo 2015-09-07 06:08:39)

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I use S3D with my 1.0 and it works perfectly. No need to keep a computer connected if you print from SD card. I can't see this being any different with the 1.0A.
It would be interesting to see some pics of succesful scans with the AiO.
I tried Kinect and the results were decent but I actually had better results using the 123D Catch app on my Android phone !
I was amazed how much detail it picked up on models as small as 30mm in height.

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Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
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My problem is that I don't see much stuff out there on flashing it on a 2.0. Anyone know where I could go to see a nice simple run down of doing it? It would be worth its weight in gold not dealing with XYZ ware alone.

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The process for the 1.0 , the AIO, and the 2.0 are the same.

The instructions on how to do it are on the site. just read through it and then follow it. if you have questions they by all means ask. However it is really not that complicated.

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You can also watch this video. Its for the 1.0 but really its the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjuCvlnpB7M

The only thing is to make sure you jumper the right pin. For the new boards its JP 37.

if your board has the drivers integrated into the main board you have the new board.