<![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/topic/58/pla-or-other-nonabs-plastic/ Mon, 06 May 2013 19:18:27 +0000 PunBB <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/21903/#p21903 Thanks ... smile


adrian wrote:
digiprint wrote:

I tried PLA and now hate myself. The PLA won't stick to any surface. Tried kapton with various temps. Calibrated the bed an so on. NO thx! I print with ABS and will have to accept the warping.
Can't imagine how some people get PLA sticking.... bought my PLA from JET.
With cover it's just impossible to print overhangs. With PLA you should use a fan on the printhead.

60oC bed. Thats all it took for me to print the Lego Men above...

Its not actually that difficult to get to work.. and the fan isn't necessary, but it definitely helps when printing smaller layers (as in area, not height) as the PLA is less viscous as temp than ABS is. And thats also the reason removal of the enclosure helps, as PLA is often printed onto a cold bed in an ambient environment.

One reason perhaps for your issues with it is that PLA and Kapton don't generally get along, hence the use of Blue Painters Tape on a cold bed often or glass+hairspray+60°C .

But its not that hard to use.. and quite a few people on here use it with much success smile

]]> Mon, 06 May 2013 19:18:27 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/21903/#p21903 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/21875/#p21875 digiprint wrote:

I tried PLA and now hate myself. The PLA won't stick to any surface. Tried kapton with various temps. Calibrated the bed an so on. NO thx! I print with ABS and will have to accept the warping.
Can't imagine how some people get PLA sticking.... bought my PLA from JET.
With cover it's just impossible to print overhangs. With PLA you should use a fan on the printhead.

60oC bed. Thats all it took for me to print the Lego Men above...

Its not actually that difficult to get to work.. and the fan isn't necessary, but it definitely helps when printing smaller layers (as in area, not height) as the PLA is less viscous as temp than ABS is. And thats also the reason removal of the enclosure helps, as PLA is often printed onto a cold bed in an ambient environment.

One reason perhaps for your issues with it is that PLA and Kapton don't generally get along, hence the use of Blue Painters Tape on a cold bed often or glass+hairspray+60°C .

But its not that hard to use.. and quite a few people on here use it with much success smile

]]> Mon, 06 May 2013 10:44:36 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/21875/#p21875 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/21874/#p21874 I tried PLA and now hate myself. The PLA won't stick to any surface. Tried kapton with various temps. Calibrated the bed an so on. NO thx! I print with ABS and will have to accept the warping.
Can't imagine how some people get PLA sticking.... bought my PLA from JET.
With cover it's just impossible to print overhangs. With PLA you should use a fan on the printhead.

]]> Mon, 06 May 2013 10:42:21 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/21874/#p21874 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/21823/#p21823 Has anyone printed PLA with the cover on? Or do we need to add a fan?

]]> Sun, 05 May 2013 16:04:30 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/21823/#p21823 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/21794/#p21794 I've accidentally tried PLA - those magic people from china shipped me PLA instead of ABS by mistake. Since PLA costs more than ABS I'm happy. Although at 200 degrees for ABS it stinks, and clogged my extruder above the hot zone.
After a few hours of jigsaw reassembly I got printing happily with PLA.
I settled down to print at 185 solidoodle degrees for extruder and bed at 60.
The bad thing, I can only print with top cover removed, and I had to rise the speed a little bit, otherwise the filament heats up and jams above the hot end.

]]> Sun, 05 May 2013 13:08:33 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/21794/#p21794 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/20470/#p20470 Ecarots wrote:

Has anyone tried the nylon that Octave has available?

http://www.octave.com/3D-Printer-Filame … index.html

third search result for nylon:

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

]]> Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:32:25 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/20470/#p20470 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/20468/#p20468 Has anyone tried the nylon that Octave has available?

http://www.octave.com/3D-Printer-Filame … index.html

]]> Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:50:17 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/20468/#p20468 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/20385/#p20385 iowajames wrote:

Them some nice prints!

Cheers - But I can only thank the forum for giving me the info to have tuned the printer. But I've found the PLA is much better at hiding the layers if done at the right temp.

]]> Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:10:36 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/20385/#p20385 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/20378/#p20378 adrian wrote:

I've done a bit of PLA, purchased via BilbyCNC here in Oz but can't tell you the original origin.

Diameter is pretty consistent... averages 1.72 across the tests I've taken so far.. not huge deviation either

Temps vary based on which PLA I'm using; the Glow-Blue PLA I have used below seems to work best at 160-SolidoodleDegrees .. with a bed temp of 60oC using a ceramic tile with a touch of hairspray which works for about a dozen prints before needing a refresh... the PLA just 'falls off' once the bed cools to about 50oC...

Some Natural PLA I have works best at 150-SolidoodleDregrees, and a sample black I had wouldn't flow consistently till I used 190-SolidoodleDegrees.

My suggestion would be - try sample packs from places first, or at least get some that state the melt points etc their particular PLA wants - the BilbyCNC stuff has it nicely printed on the side of each spool and then I just normally pick 'in the middle' of the range and subtract 30oC to get the SolidoodleDegrees.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8663458170_0b047c229d_z.jpg

Them some nice prints!

]]> Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:28:14 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/20378/#p20378 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/20363/#p20363 I've done a bit of PLA, purchased via BilbyCNC here in Oz but can't tell you the original origin.

Diameter is pretty consistent... averages 1.72 across the tests I've taken so far.. not huge deviation either

Temps vary based on which PLA I'm using; the Glow-Blue PLA I have used below seems to work best at 160-SolidoodleDegrees .. with a bed temp of 60oC using a ceramic tile with a touch of hairspray which works for about a dozen prints before needing a refresh... the PLA just 'falls off' once the bed cools to about 50oC...

Some Natural PLA I have works best at 150-SolidoodleDregrees, and a sample black I had wouldn't flow consistently till I used 190-SolidoodleDegrees.

My suggestion would be - try sample packs from places first, or at least get some that state the melt points etc their particular PLA wants - the BilbyCNC stuff has it nicely printed on the side of each spool and then I just normally pick 'in the middle' of the range and subtract 30oC to get the SolidoodleDegrees.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8663458170_0b047c229d_z.jpg

]]> Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:08:00 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/20363/#p20363 <![CDATA[Re: PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/20360/#p20360 I am thinking of printing in PLA, but am unsure who has the most consistent diameter, best quality PLA filament, I mean, I can get it cheap or expensive, but not know how it extrudes on the SD. Anyone have experience they can offer?

]]> Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:37:29 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/20360/#p20360 <![CDATA[PLA or other Non-ABS plastic]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/291/#p291 Has any one tried printing with PLA on their Solidoodles yet? What temp settings work best? Anyone try printing from other filament types?

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