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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Over Extruding Center of Walls]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys. I&#039;m away from home for the holidays, but when I get back, I&#039;ll give all this a try. I did have time to give V1.1.6 a shot and that seemed to resolve the issue at first glance.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2016 14:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Over Extruding Center of Walls]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/129633/#p129633</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve also had problems with overextruding infill, details can be seen on this thread:</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/14283/after-e3d-v6-upgrade-over-extrusion-problems/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/14283/af … -problems/</a></p><p>I&#039;ve successfully solved my problems by:</p><p>a) following the advice of wardjr and heartless on that thread, i.e. proper extrusion calibration. Thanks guys!<br />b) using slic3r from upstream, i.e. newer than 1.2.9</p><p>my $0.02</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I use version 1.2.9 with no problems - but then I have properly calibrated my steps/mm and have set specific extrusion widths in the advanced tab, so the &quot;bug&quot; is not a problem for me </p><p>fudging numbers just doesn&#039;t work. If you want to solve your extrusion problems - do it right. </p><p>&quot;Anything worth doing, is worth doing right&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2016 00:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Over Extruding Center of Walls]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/129614/#p129614</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Try Slic3r 1.0.0RC3 it&#039;s the only version that does exactly what you tell it to.&nbsp; Some minor profile changes or things listed as percent were on a 1-10 scale instead so if you get errors check those first.&nbsp; Ex. infill 90% is .9 instead</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 23:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/129589/#p129589</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have found on more than one occasion newest in terms of software is not the best.&nbsp; If it works,&nbsp; don&#039;t fix it and don&#039;t update it. With Cura I still prefer the old 10.3 over any other. I have now moved to Simplify3d and it is the only software I use now. But it is not free.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Over Extruding Center of Walls]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have been unable to test this, but my confidence is saying what the issue is is growing. I am using V1.2.9. I will give the previous stable build a try when I get a chance, but I would also like to look into a workaround for the bug.</p><p><a href="http://reprap.org/wiki/Slic3r#Known_Bugs">http://reprap.org/wiki/Slic3r#Known_Bugs</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else seen issues with different versions of Slic3r as seen in the post linked below? This seems to be another example of the issue I am having with the resolution being to not use the most current release of the software. I will see if I can give a different version of Slic3r a try. Currently using the latest Linux build.</p><p><a href="http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?262,549909">http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?262,549909</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 16:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think that last paragraph hits the nail dead on the head with what I am dealing with. I&#039;ve heard it&#039;s best to keep wall width a multiplier or the extrusion width, but that doesn&#039;t seem like a robust solutions to me as there could be two different width walls in a single print.</p><p>For the print I am doing right now (raspberry pi case), I do not have large, hollow areas to infill, so I think setting the infill parameter to 0 would be a viable solution for this print, but what about a print like a benchy, where there is need for infill?</p><p>Is there a setting that I could ignore small gaps like the 0.08&quot; in your example above?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It will be easier to start by inputting any known value available.&nbsp; Otherwise you&#039;ll be chasing your tail with a bunch of best guesses.&nbsp; In your picture you are over extruding, I was thinking you were under extruding based on one of your comments of reducing the multiplier till you had holes in the perimeters.&nbsp; It didn&#039;t help that I then confused the two photos you had posted.&nbsp; In that other persons picture there is some form of mechanical slop in the system.</p><p>In your picture you have general over extrusion.&nbsp; If when you decrease the multiplier to get nice perimeters and infill, you get spaces between the lines on a bottom layer.&nbsp; This is where you can decrease the extrusion width to close that gap without messing up your calibration.&nbsp; You can also change extrusion width of infill patterns to achieve nicer surfaces.&nbsp; This is especially important on 100% infill parts.<br />I can assume you have a .4 nozzle so this means your general extrusion width will be .48.&nbsp; I like to use a first layer extrusion width of .36.&nbsp; Then I set perimeters to .48. Infill widths can range based on what filament and the type of part I am printing but (.44-.52)</p><p>I am not certain what &quot;line&quot; you are referring to.&nbsp; But if it&#039;s the space between the outer perimeters,&nbsp; that&#039;s the &quot;infill&quot; section.&nbsp; Remember that a Slicer is working in multiples of .48 in the X,Y axis.&nbsp; If a particular area of a print is 2mm wide and you have selected 2 perimeters.&nbsp; The Slicer is going to create tool paths to fulfill the perimeters first.&nbsp; This will give 4 lines that add up to 1.92mm.&nbsp; The Slicer then has to make some assumptions about the remaining .08mm.&nbsp; If you have selected zero infill it&#039;s not a problem as it will just leave a gap between the two sets of perimeters.&nbsp; If you selected 100% infill it&#039;s going to struggle to fill that tiny gap without over extruding.&nbsp; This is where tweaking that infill extrusion width can come in handy.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Over Extruding Center of Walls]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that I skipped the steps/mm calibration of the extruded and fine measurement of my specific roll of filament. I tuned the multiplier to the point that I was getting good results for areas with large, flat, solid infills.</p><p>I assumed that my steps/mm was correct and did not need correcting since when using CuraEngine, my prints looked okay. As for the filament diameter, I did measure my filament when I concluded I was overextending to see if the Dia was greater than 1.75, but it was just slightly smaller, so I concluded that lowering the filament diameter would only increase the true amount of filament extruded, making my issue worse. Do these seem like reasonable conclusions to make on what is/is not my problem?</p><p>I know the extrusion multiplier is probably designed as a final fudge factor, but in the event that the steps/mm is actually off, and the filament diameter is close but not spot on, is there an issue with compensating with the extrusion width?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (lund8619)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 13:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/129557/#p129557</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Since wardjr is busy, I will chime in here...</p><p>1. have you calibrated your extruder steps/mm? this is where you start. If you ask for 100mms of filament to be fed in, you need to get 100mms of filament... for more info, read this: <a href="http://northwoods3d.weebly.com/blog/filament-calibration-part-1">http://northwoods3d.weebly.com/blog/fil … ion-part-1</a></p><p>2. Have you calibrated your filament? average diameter, etc? <br />No two spools of filament will be the same, and it is very rare to have one that is exactly 1.75mm in diameter. For a slicing program to produce accurate results, it needs accurate information. Also, the extrusion multiplier should be calculated for a given spool of filament - not randomly changed. For more information on this aspect, see here: <a href="http://northwoods3d.weebly.com/blog/-flow-rate-how-much-plastic-is-coming-out">http://northwoods3d.weebly.com/blog/-fl … coming-out</a></p><p>Good calibration routines are essential to producing good prints.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have lots of suggestions and will be happy to help you through proper calibration but it&#039;s going to have to be tomorrow.&nbsp; Early morning ahead so I&#039;ll check in with you tomorrow.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (wardjr)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 06:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response. What leads you to believe I am under-extruding? For the image I included of my own print (the pink one) I believe I was over extruding. The print was with all of Slic3rs default settings except the filament and nozzle diameter.</p><p>Since this print, I have printed half a dozen Benchy&#039;s. My belief is that I was over-extruding because of the issue I posted about, as well as marks on the top fill from my nozzle dragging through it. I changed only the extrusion multiplier to 0.9, then 0.8, then 0.7 before noticing major gaps between the toolpath on the &quot;deck&quot; of the Benchy. Looking back, I can see small gaps in the 0.8 extrusion multiplier print as well. I am currently printing at 0.85, but I still see small gaps. I think 0.9 is what I need to be using for extrusion multiplier.</p><p>As for my issue though, I completely believe the solution is between the extrusion widths page and possibly the number of vertical shells, This is where I have been toying around, but with very little success. My best results so far have been seen by reducing the widths to 0.4, but from what I am reading, it is not advised to use an extrusion width lower than about 120% of the nozzle diameter, so I&#039;m kind of confused there. Do you have a suggestion for settings to use here for a 0.4mm nozzle?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 05:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/129544/#p129544</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>In Slic3r you can set extrusion widths (tool paths) of different functions.&nbsp; Things like perimeters and infill will need different values.&nbsp; It really looks like you are under extruding as far as extrusion calibration goes. This leads me to think the tool paths themselves aren&#039;t set correctly.&nbsp; Of course this will mean nothing if there is mechanical slop in your system.&nbsp; Something like a loose belt can really mess up a print.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p><p>I&#039;m new to the scene, so forgive me if I have misdiagnosed my issue. I stole one of my pictures because I think it shows what I&#039;m talking about even more than my own picture. My picture is of the pink print. There is a bead running down the center of the top of the wall, best seen in the u̶p̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶n̶e̶r̶ upper left hand corner of the image. The stolen image I believe also shows this same trait. It&#039;s seems to me like the exterior of the walls are being printed, then the center is being over-filled.</p><p>What I have done so far:<br />- tuned down the extrusion multiplier until there are small gaps in the flats of my print.</p><p>Using Slic3r, Repetier Host, with a Da Vinci 1.0</p><p>Any ideas?</p><br /><br /><p>EDIT: Looks like the orientation of the image is different than I expected. The issue looks like what I would describe as a weld bead down the center of the wall.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 03:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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