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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Questions about replacing Z-screw]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jagowilson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Steps to remove the Z platform:</p><p>0. Disconnect the motor, thermistor and bed heater from the motherboard; bring the wires into the frame.<br />1. Loosen the 4 screws on the bottom of the frame holding the motor in place.<br />2. Loosen the 4 hose clamps or shaft collars holding the two Z rods in place.<br />3. Remove the Z rods from the frame.<br />4. Pull the entire assembly out.<br />5. Remove the platform from the motor+screw assembly.</p><p>Now you have to remove the Z screw from the motor. Here&#039;s how I do it:<br />1. Go find six 5/16&quot; square nuts<br />2. Put the nuts on the shaft, all the way to the bottom, until they fall off and onto the motor front plate<br />3. Keep doing this until there is no more empty space for nuts to fit. <br />4. Tighten the final nut as hard as you can--the rod will pop right off the motor shaft.</p><p>Now you need to install a new rod. Regardless of if you use an M5 or another 5/16&quot;, you will need a coupler. Use a flexible 5-to-5mm or (5-to-8mm if you use a 5/16&quot; rod instead of a 5mm). Make sure you get one that pinches the coupler together, NOT one that secures the coupler in place with a set screw on the shafts.</p><p>When I get home I will send you a design wardjr worked up for an M5 shaft, which will work for you only if you are using the wooden platform.</p><p>It&#039;s likely this happened in transit. When you transport your printer in the future, put the Z axis all the way at the bottom.</p></blockquote></div><p>Drat, guess I have to be more careful moving it.</p><p>How do I know when it is &quot;all the way at the bottom&quot;?&nbsp; Is there concern of either damaging the motor pushing it down to far, or bending the rod running it past the &quot;bottom&quot;?&nbsp; This was my fear when I tried to transport it and why I didn&#039;t run it *ALL* the way to the floor.</p><p>Mine is the Solidoodle 2, basically stock with all-metal platform.&nbsp; That was one reason I went with this model printer, I was not convinced the wood-based ones would be that dimentionally stable in my apartment - we have HUGE humidity swings and lots of gaps to the outside (but we don&#039;t pay for heat/AC, it&#039;s included!) so winter humidity is maybe 25% with humidifiers pumping out ~5 gallons a day, and summer is around 60% humidity and I have no idea how to lower that (no idea where I could put a humidifier and not trip circuits).</p><p>Do you think getting a &quot;5-to-5/16 coupler&quot; and using the same motor would be better than replacing the entire assembly?&nbsp; If the coupler claims it&#039;s &quot;flexable&quot; would this mean maybe I can just allow for the &quot;give&quot; and use the same leadscrew in spite of the minor bend?</p><p>Also, do you know if I would have to &quot;tweak&quot; the PCB any if I do just swap the whole motor+rod?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Questions about replacing Z-screw]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Have you taken a look at this thread? <a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2154/fixing-banding-zwobble-with-fine-threaded-zrod/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2154/fix … aded-zrod/</a><br />It is a sticky in the Hacks/Mods area.</p><p>A1: Nothing can fix a bent screw. You can combat all you want, but a jacked up screw is a jacked up screw. My #1 has a pretty big wobble to it, but I print just fine with a well nut.<br />A2: To be clear, I have not done this mod, so I will not give false advice. However, if you were to upgrade to something like an M5 rod, you will have to change your Z steps per/mm in EEPROM.<br />A3: You have a shaft on either side of the Z rod, so I doubt fighting a stuck print would be the cuplrit, though I suppose it is possible if you used a mallet <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>On the topic of stuck prints, if you are printing direct to glass, just put the glass in the freezer for a minute or even on a cool surface for a few and the part will come right off.</p></blockquote></div><p>I figured as much and placed an order for a new Z axis motor/rod...fairly affordable though I feel a bit sad tossing a perfectly good stepper motor so it&#039;ll probably sit forever in a parts-bin.&nbsp; I&#039;m a bit nervous doing major mods like replacing the Z-steps, I&#039;ve already had some run-ins trying to flash firmware to get bed PID and now it only works with the auto-reset jumper &quot;open&quot; (no idea, but I don&#039;t want to replace the system board).&nbsp; Ended up using ISP because I never got it to flash thru USB.</p><p>My Solidoodle 2 is basically &quot;stock&quot; other than a couple very minor things...like an &quot;on-off&quot; switch on the 12V input and PVC spool holder above the machine, plus some plexiglass/poster-board enclosure.&nbsp; I&#039;ve added bed-PID in the firmware but that&#039;s about the most ambitious I&#039;ve become.</p><p>The bed is just plain kapton tape - somehow it&#039;s still the same tape the printer shipped with even after 2+ years of use (!) though I am thinking I may need to replace it soon as it&#039;s getting more bubbles and &quot;un-sticking&quot; from the aluminum bed in places.&nbsp; I have more kapton pad just dread changing it...so far cleaning with acetone has been sufficient to re-use it.&nbsp; I was going to try glass but it seemed like more trouble than it was worth and I gave up.</p><p>To remove prints, most pull off or I can slip the edge of my Leatherman blade and &quot;pry&quot; against the bed (I&#039;ve become really good at matching the angle and not nicking the tape).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Questions about replacing Z-screw]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s my experience replacing my Z axis with a small M3 threaded rod:</p><p><a href="http://tomhorsley.com/hardware/solidoodle/solidoodle-z.html">http://tomhorsley.com/hardware/solidood … dle-z.html</a></p><p>P.S. The note at the end about having parts come out too tall was apparently a one-time glitch. I tried to reproduce the problem to see what was going on and everything I did after the first print came out the expected height.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 17:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Questions about replacing Z-screw]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/107197/#p107197</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Steps to remove the Z platform:</p><p>0. Disconnect the motor, thermistor and bed heater from the motherboard; bring the wires into the frame.<br />1. Loosen the 4 screws on the bottom of the frame holding the motor in place.<br />2. Loosen the 4 hose clamps or shaft collars holding the two Z rods in place.<br />3. Remove the Z rods from the frame.<br />4. Pull the entire assembly out.<br />5. Remove the platform from the motor+screw assembly.</p><p>Now you have to remove the Z screw from the motor. Here&#039;s how I do it:<br />1. Go find six 5/16&quot; square nuts<br />2. Put the nuts on the shaft, all the way to the bottom, until they fall off and onto the motor front plate<br />3. Keep doing this until there is no more empty space for nuts to fit. <br />4. Tighten the final nut as hard as you can--the rod will pop right off the motor shaft.</p><p>Now you need to install a new rod. Regardless of if you use an M5 or another 5/16&quot;, you will need a coupler. Use a flexible 5-to-5mm or (5-to-8mm if you use a 5/16&quot; rod instead of a 5mm). Make sure you get one that pinches the coupler together, NOT one that secures the coupler in place with a set screw on the shafts.</p><p>When I get home I will send you a design wardjr worked up for an M5 shaft, which will work for you only if you are using the wooden platform.</p><p>It&#039;s likely this happened in transit. When you transport your printer in the future, put the Z axis all the way at the bottom.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Questions about replacing Z-screw]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Have you taken a look at this thread? <a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2154/fixing-banding-zwobble-with-fine-threaded-zrod/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2154/fix … aded-zrod/</a><br />It is a sticky in the Hacks/Mods area.</p><p>A1: Nothing can fix a bent screw. You can combat all you want, but a jacked up screw is a jacked up screw. My #1 has a pretty big wobble to it, but I print just fine with a well nut.<br />A2: To be clear, I have not done this mod, so I will not give false advice. However, if you were to upgrade to something like an M5 rod, you will have to change your Z steps per/mm in EEPROM.<br />A3: You have a shaft on either side of the Z rod, so I doubt fighting a stuck print would be the cuplrit, though I suppose it is possible if you used a mallet <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>On the topic of stuck prints, if you are printing direct to glass, just put the glass in the freezer for a minute or even on a cool surface for a few and the part will come right off.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Questions about replacing Z-screw]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been battling Z-axis banding, finally traced the problem to a bent lead-screw (I can see the motor and printer-bottom flex and wiggle, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuimjo3hAwM">exactly like this</a> just less severe).</p><p>Question 1: This is non-fixable, I have to replace the Z axis screw/motor, correct?<br />Question 2: After installing the new motor/screw, will I need to &quot;adjust&quot; anything with the control board?&nbsp; I know I read there was something about XY axis work that may require tweaking potentiometers to get circular circles, will I have to adjust anything like that for the Z-axis motor?<br />Question 3: Is there anything I can do to prevent this in the future?&nbsp; I&#039;m guessing it happened either removing a &quot;really stuck&quot; print, or while transporting the printer, but I&#039;m not entirely sure how it happened.</p><p>I&#039;ve watched the guide from Solidoodle at <a href="https://vimeo.com/61632393">https://vimeo.com/61632393</a> but they don&#039;t seem to mention adjusting anything just to re-assemble it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 11:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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