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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Temp on top of Glass-bed Not the Same]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TickTock wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&nbsp; Definitely shouldn&#039;t be seeing that much error between set point and actual.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s what I thought also, so I repeated test several different ways. <br />Always saw 40 to 50C difference.<br />Maybe it&#039;s because the Kapton-Film is still between bed and glass ?<br />Or maybe the hair-spray and air-bubbles, between them, is acting as an thermal-insulator ?<br />And there is a fan, used to cool stepper-motors, that blows some air over glass,<br />but not pointed directly at it .</p><p>Like I said , it&#039;s working Great with glass at 50C, so I&#039;m not going to worry about it,<br />but Just seems Curious that about 100C is Recommended, when Not really Necessary or the best ??<br />(Since object warping is Not worse at the lower bed temp)</p><p>I don&#039;t have an IR-thermometer, but maybe I can borrow one.<br />Good Idea ! Thanks</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Temp on top of Glass-bed Not the Same]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another easier test I just thought of to determine if it&#039;s your probe or your thermister is to drop a drop of water on the bed when it&#039;s set to 105C or so.&nbsp; Should see it boil around the edges if the temp is above 100.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Temp on top of Glass-bed Not the Same]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My glass <a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/9004/sd4-heatbed-installation/page/3/">runs between 90-100C </a>(depending on where you measure ) when the thermister underneath is set to 100C.&nbsp; Not sure of your method but try insulating the probe from the ambient when measuring.&nbsp; Or get an IR, non-contact, thermometer.&nbsp; They work quite well with glass.&nbsp; Also, make sure your thermister is configured/calibrated properly.&nbsp; Definitely shouldn&#039;t be seeing that much error between set point and actual.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Temp on top of Glass-bed Not the Same]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Raimond wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: blue"><strong><em>Glass does not conduct heat well. IF you have any glass overhang, the glass plate is larger than the heater/build plate, then the heat loss will be greater. I am using thin copper sheeting now and it works as well as glass and much more heat is retained.</em></strong></span></p></blockquote></div><p>Now I&#039;m wondering just how Hot the Bed really Needs to be ??<br />Since&nbsp; only 50 C is working Great, with ABS, PLA, HIPS type filaments, that I&#039;ve tried at that temp.<br />I&#039;m starting to think the more commonly called-for 100C temp range, at object, is Too hot ?<br />(Of course the &#039;Set temp&#039; still needs to be at 100C, for our printer with glass-bed)</p><p>Don&#039;t want to be Negative but It seems that copper would Warp much more than glass ??<br />It would have to be very Thick copper plate to not Warp <br />and then would be too thick to fit under extruders, at normal Z-zero position ??</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2015 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: blue"><strong><em>Glass does not conduct heat well. IF you have any glass overhang, the glass plate is larger than the heater/build plate, then the heat loss will be greater. I am using thin copper sheeting now and it works as well as glass and much more heat is retained.</em></strong></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Temp on top of Glass-bed Not the Same]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been doing Temperature measurements of various parts of our printer,<br />using an accurate digital Thermometer with thermocouple-probe.</p><p>I found that when Bed-plate temp is set to 100C,<br /> the top of the 3/32&quot; glass plate is only about 50C . <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /><br />50 C seems to work Great tho, since had No problems with objects sticking to glass <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>BTW: Indicated Heat-block temps are very accurate,<br />and the fan added at X &amp; Y stepper-motors reduced temp from about 70C to 40, on Y-motor</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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