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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Table leveling and X-Y Calibration]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If I use a piece of paper that is about .14mm thick to level the bed on my SD3 and the first layer has a very large area, the extruder will plug and stop extruding. The knurled wheel digs into the ABS and it quits pushing it through. I have a .4mm nozzle and run at 200C the glass bed will be at 95C ( best it will do). I have to level with almost .20mm to get it to not jamb. I am extruding .20mm layers and it works fine if I can get it through the first layer. Anyone else have this problem?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mikefree41]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-06-02T22:30:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Table leveling and X-Y Calibration]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks wardjr!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dave.lantz]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-04-02T04:49:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Table leveling and X-Y Calibration]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You definitely want glass...don&#039;t forget the hairspray.</p><p>This post covers the pillow block and bearings I was referring to</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/4824/how-to-forget-about-circle-problems-for-ever/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/4824/how … -for-ever/</a></p><p>I would guess that it would be easiest to pull the enclosure off until calibration is complete.&nbsp; I know the thought of taking a brand new printer apart is disheartening.&nbsp; Search, read, research and ask a lot of questions.&nbsp; Then come up with a plan to make your printer better.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; <br />You can expect reliable and precise prints from your SD4.&nbsp; Unfortunately it isn&#039;t going to do that out of the box.&nbsp; It may have been when it went into the box but I think shipping and handling really mess them up.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-01T21:11:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Table leveling and X-Y Calibration]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>TY wardjr.</p><p>I have a Gen 4, brand spanking new. This makes some of videos and instructions a challenge because things are a tad different.</p><p>I will go through all the calibrations and try again. I&#039;ll also try adding glass.</p><p>Can you explain more what you mean by &quot;pillow block and bearings on the rear Y axis. A picture or diagram or both would be great!</p><p>Thanks again.</p><p>Dave</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dave.lantz]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5414/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-01T20:52:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Table leveling and X-Y Calibration]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dave.lantz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So read all the instructions both on the Solidoodle site and here and attempted to level the table. Last test of the spool mount gave a fairly good bead and table adhesion. However! I am concerned about larger parts. I purchased this to make some 5&quot; square x 1/8&quot; thick plates with holes and shapes in them.<br />When I tested the extruder/plate gap at 2&quot;-3&quot; out from center front/back, left/right - the gaps varied from location to location. I could not adjust the leveling screws in any combo to get equal gaps in all location. this tells me the plate isn&#039;t flat. Any suggestions? I&#039;ve read about adding glass and I&#039;m wondering; if you clamp it to the plate does the glass then bend also? Also when using glass do you heat it? I know you use hairspray to get adhesion.</p><p>Second issue is:<br />Holes are not round. Small holes are especially lousy. Second layer of the run on the spool mount seems to offset in the positive Y direction. I have not calibrated the belts as yet but will that solve my issue?</p><p>Last quicky! How precise can I get with this machine? Anyone using it for production parts? Is precision 0.005&quot;, 0.010&quot;, 0.100&quot; or whatever you have experienced? I&#039;m not using it for making a lot of parts but the one or two per shape I make need to be accurate within reason.</p><p>Thanks for all your help!</p></blockquote></div><p>What model do you have SD2,3,4?</p><p>Glass is really your best and cheapest mod you can do.&nbsp; As far as attaching without warping... Just buy some Aqua-Net and spray the bottom of the glass and set it right on the bed with the Kapton tape on.&nbsp; Run it through a couple heat-cool cycles and it should stick to the bed just fine with out warping the glass.&nbsp; Plus no clips in the way of the extruder.&nbsp; Then a light mist on the top of the glass will really help your prints stick.&nbsp; You really want that first layer squished to the glass and a bed temp of 105 - 110.&nbsp; With the glass you will need to let that heat soak through for a bit before you start your print.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t have an enclosure you will want to get one.&nbsp; Even wrap it in Saran Wrap until you can come up with a more permanent solution.</p><p>As far as your holes not being round.... Calibration is key.&nbsp; &nbsp;Make sure everything moves nice and smooth and tension on the Y-Axis belts are equal.&nbsp; Also plan on putting a pillow block and bearings on that rear Y-shaft.&nbsp; I have seen (on more than one occasion) where the belt to the Y motor is over tight.&nbsp; This will cause that back shaft to deflect and really cause problems with circles.</p><p>When it comes to accuracy and precision....<br />You are squishing hot plastic through a nozzle.&nbsp; So even though a very well calibrated machine can move to .1 mm all day.&nbsp; Getting that squishy plastic that expands as it extrudes to be precise is a challenge.&nbsp; When it comes to parts that I need to be precise I usually go the direction of removal of excess material (drill, file, sand, cut) to get things as close to perfect as possible.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Hope this helps.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-04-01T16:36:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Table leveling and X-Y Calibration]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So read all the instructions both on the Solidoodle site and here and attempted to level the table. Last test of the spool mount gave a fairly good bead and table adhesion. However! I am concerned about larger parts. I purchased this to make some 5&quot; square x 1/8&quot; thick plates with holes and shapes in them.<br />When I tested the extruder/plate gap at 2&quot;-3&quot; out from center front/back, left/right - the gaps varied from location to location. I could not adjust the leveling screws in any combo to get equal gaps in all location. this tells me the plate isn&#039;t flat. Any suggestions? I&#039;ve read about adding glass and I&#039;m wondering; if you clamp it to the plate does the glass then bend also? Also when using glass do you heat it? I know you use hairspray to get adhesion.</p><p>Second issue is:<br />Holes are not round. Small holes are especially lousy. Second layer of the run on the spool mount seems to offset in the positive Y direction. I have not calibrated the belts as yet but will that solve my issue?</p><p>Last quicky! How precise can I get with this machine? Anyone using it for production parts? Is precision 0.005&quot;, 0.010&quot;, 0.100&quot; or whatever you have experienced? I&#039;m not using it for making a lot of parts but the one or two per shape I make need to be accurate within reason.</p><p>Thanks for all your help!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dave.lantz]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-04-01T16:04:39Z</updated>
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