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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i&#039;ve always gotten PLA to stick really well on bare heated glass.</p><p>but blue painters tape is my go to thing if i ever get adhesion troubles.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ghostling]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1010/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-04T22:17:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ysb wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>ggunners wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just use an Elmer&#039;s Glue Stick. Easy on, easy touch-ups, if you want to clean it off, that&#039;s easy too, just run it under warm water for awhile. If using on glass, remove the glass, let it cool in about 2 minutes and the largest prints just pop right off.</p></blockquote></div><p> with ABS or PLA ?</p></blockquote></div><p>With ABS, haven&#039;t tried PLA yet. Figure I need a fan mounted for that and many people recommend blue painters tape with PLA + fan.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ggunners]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4235/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-31T19:02:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>accusedmonk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ll join in the +1 on ward&#039;s trick, I think that is very clever.&nbsp; I started with 1/8in glass and hairspray.&nbsp; I next went to the acetone and abs mix which does an amazing job, not a single print even started coming loose.&nbsp; It tends to make a mess after each print though, on the part itself and on the bed.&nbsp; I tried the blue painters tape which i&#039;m currently doing, it&#039;s awesome for quickly starting new prints with no mess.</p><p>I&#039;m going to try the hair spray underneath since my clips do seem to warp the glass according to my dial indicator.</p></blockquote></div><p>Just remember it takes 2 or 3 heat cool cycles to stick the glass to the bed well.&nbsp; I have made the mistake of trying to hurry the process.&nbsp; Ended up trying to figure out why my motors were suddenly skipping.&nbsp; Turned out the glass was sliding around and I could see the hairspray still bubbling under the glass.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-31T16:07:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ggunners wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just use an Elmer&#039;s Glue Stick. Easy on, easy touch-ups, if you want to clean it off, that&#039;s easy too, just run it under warm water for awhile. If using on glass, remove the glass, let it cool in about 2 minutes and the largest prints just pop right off.</p></blockquote></div><p>with ABS or PLA ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/40/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-31T16:00:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just use an Elmer&#039;s Glue Stick. Easy on, easy touch-ups, if you want to clean it off, that&#039;s easy too, just run it under warm water for awhile. If using on glass, remove the glass, let it cool in about 2 minutes and the largest prints just pop right off.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ggunners]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4235/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-31T15:46:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also have a can of hair spray at the ready and do use it to touch up the bed from time to time.&nbsp; However, I started using Elmer&#039;s glue (paper glue or even wood glue, whatever you have on hand it&#039;s all PVA based).&nbsp; I first dilute the glue with 4 parts water to one part glue and brush it onto the glass in a thin layer.&nbsp; Usually works for&nbsp; even difficult prints and filaments.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[fcichock]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1455/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-31T14:04:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll join in the +1 on ward&#039;s trick, I think that is very clever.&nbsp; I started with 1/8in glass and hairspray.&nbsp; I next went to the acetone and abs mix which does an amazing job, not a single print even started coming loose.&nbsp; It tends to make a mess after each print though, on the part itself and on the bed.&nbsp; I tried the blue painters tape which i&#039;m currently doing, it&#039;s awesome for quickly starting new prints with no mess.</p><p>I&#039;m going to try the hair spray underneath since my clips do seem to warp the glass according to my dial indicator.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[accusedmonk]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3772/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-31T04:32:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That maaaybe why I mentioned it... <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-24T23:50:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>grob wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>+1 convert to wardjr&#039;s hairspray underneath trick (kapton&#039;s still on the bed underneath). It&#039;s pretty well attached (it&#039;s not going to move unless you drive the nozzle into the side of it).</p></blockquote></div><p>Even then... I have a couple of small chips out of the side of my glass from doing just that <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-24T21:54:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1 convert to wardjr&#039;s hairspray underneath trick (kapton&#039;s still on the bed underneath). It&#039;s pretty well attached (it&#039;s not going to move unless you drive the nozzle into the side of it).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-24T21:48:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MolecularConcept wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>the screw on the back wall of the printer youll need to TIGHTEN it so the nozzle dosent hit the glass. i have 1/8th inch on mine its thick but i like it better than the thinner glass.&nbsp; to keep the glass on the bed you can use those big office bulldog clips. also called binder clips. i use 2 of them some people use 3. aqual net workd i like RAVE 4x mega&nbsp; anything with plastic polymers will work ( acrylates, vinyls ,polyurethane -copolymers) just read the ingredients</p><p>also some people claim spraying hairspray on the bottom of the glass will keep it secure to the bed .... i personally wouldnt trust that</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually it is me that keeps saying spray the underside of the glass and run it through a couple heat cool cycles.&nbsp; Binders or clips pose many issues.&nbsp; Head crashing into them and the glass actually warping are the two main reasons for not using clips.&nbsp; Since the purpose of the glass it to create a perfectly flat surface it really doesn&#039;t make much sense to make it conform to a warped bed.&nbsp; A few good coats nice and thick and it will stick to the bed just fine.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-23T23:07:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>aerosols just give a finer mist is all its the polymers that act like glue that make it stick</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MolecularConcept]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2211/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-23T22:40:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Warping ~ Noob scratches his head.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the screw on the back wall of the printer youll need to TIGHTEN it so the nozzle dosent hit the glass. i have 1/8th inch on mine its thick but i like it better than the thinner glass.&nbsp; to keep the glass on the bed you can use those big office bulldog clips. also called binder clips. i use 2 of them some people use 3. aqual net workd i like RAVE 4x mega&nbsp; anything with plastic polymers will work ( acrylates, vinyls ,polyurethane -copolymers) just read the ingredients</p><p>also some people claim spraying hairspray on the bottom of the glass will keep it secure to the bed .... i personally wouldnt trust that</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MolecularConcept]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2211/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-23T22:37:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/52773/#p52773</id>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use a non-aerosol hairspray on my glass, and it seems to be working fine.&nbsp; Also, re-leveling the printbed never hurts, and usually fixes sticking issues for me.</p><p>Glass bed thread: <a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/160/glass-bed/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/160/glass-bed/</a></p><p>Basically get a piece of glass cut to 8*8&quot; (I use about 3/32&quot; thick (2.4mm)), use 2 binderclips to attach it to the bed, and then adjust the screw by the z-axis endstop in order to accommodate the higher printbed.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[COASTER19]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1142/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-23T22:37:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quick replies!</p><p>Sorry, yes I meant bed at 105. Extruder 215.</p><p>So &quot;glass &amp; hairspray&quot; lol? As in a piece of glass on the pad, sprayed with Aqua-Net?</p><p>Is there a wiki or &quot;how to&quot; post somewhere? I suspect you&#039;d need to re-calibrate the pad home to account for the additional height?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ANDRAC]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5334/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-23T22:31:12Z</updated>
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