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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Also wanted to mention that the Bulldog if I remember right shipped from China.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T16:55:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>saymo606 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>thanks for the images!! excellent... is that with the printrboard too?</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope but it is still 1/16 steps so that shouldn&#039;t affect that part.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T16:26:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the images!! excellent... is that with the printrboard too?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[saymo606]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T16:11:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here is another one my printer was way out of calibration as I was trying to upgrade to linear bearings.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T15:58:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#039;t a great picture but the moire is all but gone and that was printed with E3D on a Bulldog using the very SD carriage it&#039;s on in the photo.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T15:56:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi hazer, </p><p>E3D has introduced moire m8,,, not improved it lol.... hence my post .. The moire there before was obviously taken up by the brass barrels surface deviations.... moving to a high surface finish SS hot end has shown it up... I&#039;m all good with why its happened...but thanks for comments though!!</p><p>I&#039;m more wanting to see some pics of prints people have taken with printrboards and a 0.9 extruder... if anyone has..?</p><p>I&#039;m swaying towards the bulldog xl geared extruder as it &#039;should&#039; be better than 1/32 route and/or 0.9( however, I&#039;m in the UK and I would need overseas shipping then import VAT etc...gets expensive)</p><br /><p>so has anyone got any pics of either a 0.9 extruder with E3D OR a bulldog XL installed with an E3D they are willing to share.... both options on a printrboard..</p><p>just needing to compare the print quality.. and then choose the route...</p><p>thanks again!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[saymo606]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T12:40:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>E3D does not improve the moire. Its a much better hot end, but it produces the same moire when you leave everything else the same.</p><p>You can either :</p><p>1 replace the motherboard so you can use a 1/32 driver</p><p>2 replace the stepper with 0.9</p><p>3 replace the extruder assembly to the Maddog with the 5:1 gearing</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hazer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T12:20:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well tried that and no improvement.. If any it is slight...</p><br /><p>So to recap I have an sd3 with a printrboard.. So I cannot upgrade to 1/32 drivers without upgrading the board... Most folks seem to install the e3d and upgrade the drivers on their sang boards...</p><br /><p>Has anyone installed the e3d with a printrboard and upgraded the extruder to 0.9? </p><p>Seems I&#039;m caught Chasing my tail now... An upgrade to a hot end means I need a new power supply, new extruder and possibly new board !!! </p><p>So has anyone installed the 0.9 extruder and have a success story they can share? If not I&#039;d rather replace the board and be done with it. A cheap upgrade is turning out to be expensive .. I hope it&#039;s worth the expense!!!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[saymo606]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-10T11:33:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll adjust the pot then take it from there...cheers!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[saymo606]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-09T20:35:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Or you could buy a Bulldog XL 5:1 geared extruder that would also help.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-01-09T20:11:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>IanJohnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As an alternative to a 1/32 microstepping driver, you could get a .9 degree stepper motor for the extruder.&nbsp; That would double the steps and help with moire.&nbsp; Also adjusting the trimpot.&nbsp; When I first put an E3D in, I had increased moire until I tweaked the pot.</p></blockquote></div><p>Or do both!&nbsp; I fixed mine with the driver, but will&nbsp; be putting on the 0.9 motor soon as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Boz]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-09T20:09:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As an alternative to a 1/32 microstepping driver, you could get a .9 degree stepper motor for the extruder.&nbsp; That would double the steps and help with moire.&nbsp; Also adjusting the trimpot.&nbsp; When I first put an E3D in, I had increased moire until I tweaked the pot.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-09T18:26:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Trimpot might help but, unfortunately, a DRV8825 is not an option with Printrboard.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[spapadim]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-09T17:24:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Look here.</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/3491/extruder-stepper-motor-starting-to-fail/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/3491/ext … g-to-fail/</a></p><p>and here...</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/4759/newly-installed-e3d-problems/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/4759/new … -problems/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DePartedPrinter]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-01-09T16:19:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[E3D Moire on SD3 printrboard]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have some very noticable moire after the upgrade.</p><p>what are you guys doing to alleviate this? I know we cant add new drivers, new stepper motor yes.... what about voltage/current adjustments.... ? if so how is it done?</p><p>anyone got a link to anything that would help - yes i did search first!!</p><p>many thanks up front as always....!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[saymo606]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/456/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-09T12:34:25Z</updated>
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