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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looks like it would do OK.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-05-07T05:46:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p><p>Would this be OK for the 15v 5A PSU for the heater?&nbsp; I need more power for nylon.</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/PC247-Satellite-including-M55-S1001-M55-S1351/dp/B003BF4FJI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1462571080&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=15v+stock+power+supply">http://www.amazon.com/PC247-Satellite-i … wer+supply</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[miglo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10646/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-05-06T21:45:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>richh001 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you are going to do all that, you should think about upgrading to the Rich-josh-multi-material-mega-cooling-super nozzle.......as per previous postings.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s still working great by the way. I&#039;ve gone through a couple KG without any tolerance issues.</p><p>Just to be clear for those that don&#039;t know - Rich helped me come up with a solution for 3mm PC extrusion. I was having problems with tolerance (probably due to a high flow rate on the material I purchased, nonetheless the mod worked great). You shouldn&#039;t need it unless you&#039;re having a problem extruding 3mm, but I do like how it&#039;s easier to change to/from 1.75 and 3mm quicker - I don&#039;t have to take off any insulation or deal with re-taping my thermocouple. Just unscrew a small tip and you&#039;re done.<br /><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/10617/changed-from-175-to-3mm-now-having-problems/">Read it here.</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josh.aeauto]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8708/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-05T22:19:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to do all that, you should think about upgrading to the Rich-josh-multi-material-mega-cooling-super nozzle.......as per previous postings.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[richh001]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9317/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-05T21:45:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>josh.aeauto wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Here&#039;s a schematic that I threw together. It&#039;s a little crude, but hopefully it helps a little.</p><br /><p>*EDITRealized that the power supplies were backwards. Fixed.<br />*removed grounds</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Thanks Josh. think the fan is missing, But i got it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dineshwong]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9397/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-04T17:15:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The above is correct, except that the power supplies don&#039;t have grounds.</p></blockquote></div><p>My bad - that&#039;s an old habit from back in college where everything had to have a ground symbol or it was &quot;wrong&quot; haha</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josh.aeauto]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8708/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-04T15:16:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The above is correct, except that the power supplies don&#039;t have grounds.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-04T15:11:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a schematic that I threw together. It&#039;s a little crude, but hopefully it helps a little.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?i3Ona4B.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?i3Ona4B.jpg" /></span></p><p>*EDITRealized that the power supplies were backwards. Fixed.<br />*removed grounds</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josh.aeauto]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8708/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-04T14:35:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dineshwong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When we are using 2 power supplies, is it going to be 2 independent circuits ?<br />If yes, how does it affect the connection b/w heater and stall protect ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, it becomes two separate circuits. The stall protection board is not connected to the heater in any way. Give me a few minutes and I&#039;ll put together a schematic for you.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josh.aeauto]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8708/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-04T14:05:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The benefit to using 2 supplies is load isolation, so the heater does not change the motor speed when it cycles on/off. The effect this makes on the filament is almost negligible, but if you&#039;re going to have the stock power supply on a shelf, might as well. Using the stock power supply also means you only need a 5 amp supply for the heater, instead of ~8 if you wanted to power the heater and the motor at 15 volts.</p></blockquote></div><p>When we are using 2 power supplies, is it going to be 2 independent circuits ?<br />If yes, how does it affect the connection b/w heater and stall protect ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dineshwong]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9397/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-04T14:02:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dineshwong wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The motor will turn faster at 15 volts. What I did was keep the original 12v supply and connected it to only the motor, and added a 15v supply to just the PID and heater.</p><p>Tim now has a PWM controller for the motor; in theory you should be able to run the motor at 15v with a lower PWM frequency to keep the same RPM but he would have to confirm that.</p></blockquote></div><p>Was wondering if we can do something with the stall protect board ? there are 2 small screws to control the voltage and current. Can that be adjusted ?</p><p>Am not an electrical person, do you mind sharing the circuit diagram ? And wats the max temp you got with ur 15v psu ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Sure, you can adjust the voltage and current all you like. The PID controller, heater,and stall protection board are all related for up to 18 volts DC.</p><p>The concern with giving the motor more than 12 volts is heat - if you can keep the temperature down, you can increase voltage. You can also reduce the PWM duty cycle by changing the CV adjustment if for some reason you don&#039;t want to use the included power supply to continue to power the motor.</p><p>The benefit to using 2 supplies is load isolation, so the heater does not change the motor speed when it cycles on/off. The effect this makes on the filament is almost negligible, but if you&#039;re going to have the stock power supply on a shelf, might as well. Using the stock power supply also means you only need a 5 amp supply for the heater, instead of ~8 if you wanted to power the heater and the motor at 15 volts.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-03T22:22:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>josh.aeauto wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dineshwong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And wats the max temp you got with ur 15v psu ?</p></blockquote></div><p>I was able to get up to about 270 for polycarbonate extrusion with no problem.</p><p>I will throw together a schematic when I return to the office tomorrow</p></blockquote></div><p>That would be great, thanks.. thats almost the same goal for me..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dineshwong]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9397/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-03T21:56:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dineshwong wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And wats the max temp you got with ur 15v psu ?</p></blockquote></div><p>I was able to get up to about 270 for polycarbonate extrusion with no problem.</p><p>I will throw together a schematic when I return to the office tomorrow</p><p>Also, the stall protection board and PWM controller are one and the same. Refer to its documentation or maybe Tim can throw in his two cents if he sees this.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josh.aeauto]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8708/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-03T21:36:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upgrading Filastruder]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The motor will turn faster at 15 volts. What I did was keep the original 12v supply and connected it to only the motor, and added a 15v supply to just the PID and heater.</p><p>Tim now has a PWM controller for the motor; in theory you should be able to run the motor at 15v with a lower PWM frequency to keep the same RPM but he would have to confirm that.</p></blockquote></div><p>Was wondering if we can do something with the stall protect board ? there are 2 small screws to control the voltage and current. Can that be adjusted ?</p><p>Am not an electrical person, do you mind sharing the circuit diagram ? And wats the max temp you got with ur 15v psu ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dineshwong]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9397/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-03T21:30:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jheikkila54 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>TheBaron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If it ain&#039;t broke, fix it until it breaks again.</p></blockquote></div><p>BINGO!</p></blockquote></div><p>If it ain&#039;t broke, you don&#039;t have enough mods.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[knowack]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4251/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-06-03T19:53:20Z</updated>
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