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For my first 'practical' print (i.e. not a SD4 upgrade, flowers for the wife, or critter figures for the daughters), I did a repair project on a favorite Christmas decoration.  This is a mobile with Santa in a Bleriot type-IX monoplane on one side, and the globe on another. The wings were never sturdy, and two years ago they broke completely...so the decoration was retired until it could be repaired.

I had been considering carving new wings out of balsa but never had the time.  Now that I have a 3D printer, it was much easier and quicker.  I modeled the wings in Sketchup, including the mounting holes, curvature, rounded corners, and raised ribs.  With the help of some modeling paint, the new wings are a close replacement for the mangled-up originals!

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Nice! Isn't this technology awesome!?

...sativas are for smoking!

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Super cool. I can't wait to get my Solidoodle.

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I printed this several days ago, and finally got around to finishing it.  One of my old cars was missing the end off the wiper stalk on the steering column.  Not a big deal, except that you can't find them anywhere..and I don't mean "can't find one cheap"...they're not to be found. (It's an '88 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce; even with the internet it's hard to find certain parts for a vintage Italian sports car!)

I modeled the end-knob in Sketchup, printed at .1mm, sanded with 210-grit sandpaper, steamed it with acetone, then hit it with some steel wool to knock the shine down.  The matte finish exactly matches the rest of the plastic.

Only a true Alfista would be able to tell that it's not an original part!

This is one of the main reasons I got into 3D printing: to make various hard-to-find parts for my old cars.  Well, and wargames.
...and RC helicopter parts.  Military models. Stuff for the garage.  Shooting accessories. Trinkets for the wife and daughters.

You get the idea.

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Very nice job on the knob. How did you apply/replicate the white icon portion?

"Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and
unconvincing narrative." Pooh in "The Mikado", Gilbert and Sullivan

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That label is part of the existing piece, I just did the end-cap part of the knob.

7 (edited by knowack 2014-04-16 23:19:25)

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Ok, these aren't artistic or inspired, but practical:

My cousin had an old shotgun of his grandfather's.  Every time he'd shoot it, the follower for the tubular magazine would fly out (the tabs and channels are very worn with age and use).

So, I modeled a retention clip that snaps onto the magazine, and keeps the follower in place when firing.

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My Alfa Romeo Spider was missing a small cover that allowed access to the brake light embedded in the spoiler.  Several members on the Alfa forums I frequent were looking for a cover too.  The only one to be found was for sale on eBay for $90.  A forum member sent me some photos; I took some measurements and made a mold out of Play-doh.  For about $.55 worth of black filament (not counting prototypes), I made an accurate reproduction.

It snaps right into place, and keeps the dirt and rain out of my spoiler!

I love black ABS!

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9 (edited by knowack 2014-06-13 01:35:58)

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Another car-related print.  There are three plastic clips in the engine compartment of my Alfa Romeo that hold the wiring harness in place (the larger area), and has a smaller upper clip to hold the prop-rod for the hood.

Most of them end up broken, and replacements are impossible to find at any price.

One of mine was still good, so I used it as an example, and even made some improvements when modeling a replacement.  The original is on the right, the new part on the left.  It works great!

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Nice work!!!

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Thanks to all for your contributions

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I've been playing with some military vehicles I downloaded from Thingiverse.  Here's a Tiger and Sherman tank, and a couple of views of a halftrack with anti-aircraft guns.  Other than trimming away the support material, I haven't done any post-printing processing...sanding, acetone vapor, etc.

I'm quite pleased with the level of detail in the results.  These are printed at 2x the original size, so they're the correct scale for Flames of War.  Perhaps I'll have time to do some sanding and painting this weekend!

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12 (edited by n2ri 2014-09-08 07:06:46)

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knowack wrote:

I've been playing with some military vehicles I downloaded from Thingiverse.  Here's a Tiger and Sherman tank, and a couple of views of a halftrack with anti-aircraft guns.  Other than trimming away the support material, I haven't done any post-printing processing...sanding, acetone vapor, etc.

I'm quite pleased with the level of detail in the results.  These are printed at 2x the original size, so they're the correct scale for Flames of War.  Perhaps I'll have time to do some sanding and painting this weekend!

nice! been trying some of his models also as they are closer to N scale 1/160th, how much clean up did you have to do on yours? and what side did you have at bottom end or underside? also what slicer settings? mine still have gaps on small bridge parts and some support materials are hard to clean up in some positions. so your making them about HO scale? I will post some pics of my N scale prints and fails. some fails would make good war battered wrecks lol. he has 3 sets now and growing. mine take between 25min and 52min depending on model and settings so far. how long for yours?

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heres couple pics of my N size prints same size as original files. I tweaked settings a bit each print too number after name is order of printing. horizontal seems better and last try was great other than tiny bridge details at top. I did bridge test and got it set right but lately speed dont slow to bridge speed like it did/should as if it dont see bridge. last layer settings where .15mm height .3mm 1st layer, 4 per, 8 layers top/bot, standard slower safer speeds took like 35min print time. N scale is best printed slow for good details. as it allows layers start to cool a bit too. multi objects allow more cooling between layers once settings are good.

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n2ri wrote:

heres couple pics of my N size prints same size as original files. I tweaked settings a bit each print too number after name is order of printing. horizontal seems better and last try was great other than tiny bridge details at top. I did bridge test and got it set right but lately speed dont slow to bridge speed like it did/should as if it dont see bridge. last layer settings where .15mm height .3mm 1st layer, 4 per, 8 layers top/bot, standard slower safer speeds took like 35min print time. N scale is best printed slow for good details. as it allows layers start to cool a bit too. multi objects allow more cooling between layers once settings are good.

I read a post on Thingiverse that someone was printing them at 187% size, but 200% seems to match up correctly with the 'store-bought' FOW vehicles.

I print them sitting on their rears...turrets and hulls.  That seems to give me the best results, and less support material required.  The gun barrels come out very good (notice the quad-.50 turret for the halftrack). Most of the clean-up required is removing the support material from around the road wheels of the tank treads.  Still, it's not too bad...a sharp exacto and a little patience.

I printed mine at .1mm layers, .35mm first layer, 8 perimeters, 4 top, 3 bottom.  In cooling, I have it slow down below 60 seconds, with a 5mm/s minimum.

If you have a particular model you want me to try printing with my settings, let me know.

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Thanks I forgot about the Slic3r filament, cooling tab now they print perfect. these are truly amazing models

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I'm glad you got it working.  They are really great models. 

I'm hoping he does another WWII pack with jeeps, armored cars, and crew-served weapons.

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good prints at the original N scale size after tweaking slic3r settings. the sherman took 50mins to print but well worth the wait for tiny detail

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knowack wrote:

I'm glad you got it working.  They are really great models. 

I'm hoping he does another WWII pack with jeeps, armored cars, and crew-served weapons.

n2ri sent me a link to this forum. Thanks for the comments.

Yes, there will be a pack 3 (and 4, and 5, and ... ) until pretty much every WWII tank and vehicle is done.
Currently modeled for the next pack are:
Medium B (WWI)
Medium C (WWI)
M3 Lee
M3 Grant
DUKW (open & closed)
Churchill VII
Churchill crocodile
Goliath
Goliath on trailer
Kettenkrad
Pak40 auf RSO
Sdkfz 10
Sdkfz 10/1 20mm flak (armoured and unarmoured)
Sdkfz 251/7 with assualt bridges
Sdkfz 251/1 stuka zu fuss
Pz III L/M/N
Radschlepper Ost
OT-34

I'll focus on Jeep, Dodge weapons carrier and M8/M20 soon.
M4A3E8, Chaffee, Hellcat, M4 105mm will all be in Pack 3 for sure. Amtracks might make it in too...

If I'm missing anything important, please feel free to let me know. ( And no, Mitch, the Ball tank is not important...  smile  )

Regards,

Marco Bergman

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Marco!  The man himself!

I want to build some dioramas and vignettes with your models for some local VFWs.

Your body of work is SO impressive.  I have many questions; it may be worth starting a new thread:

I think I read on Thingiverse that you use Solidworks...how long does it take you to model some of these items?  What do you use for source info?...photos?...line drawings?...do you live near a museum?

Any wisdom for us modeling rookies?  I'm interested in hearing about your creating process.

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The first thing before designing am item is to be well aquainted with the capabilities of your printer, because this will heavily influence your design.
For the UP printer, these are the following constraints which need to be considered:
Minimum wall thickness (XY): 0.7mm
Minimum trench (sharp definition) (XY): 0.4mm
Minimum trench (XZ): 0.2mm (rounded edges)
Minimum trench (sharp definition) (XZ): 0.4mm
Minimum thickness for things like mudguards (XZ): 0.6mm to avoid a lacy finish.
Prefered Zaxis step 0.2mm ( to suit UP Mini)

These numbers will determine what details need to be omitted, or beefed up overscale to print.

It is easiest to work off a good set of 2D drawings. However, many of these drawings are wildly innacurate, so picking good ones is essential. Checking known dimensions against the drawings is a good start. I tend to favor the later issues of Panzer Tracts and the Speilberger books for German vehicles. For US vehicles, the Hunnicutt series is the go-to set of reference. The Bradford books of scale plans are a good starting place especially for British and Russian vehicles, but often contain minor innacuracies. (Given the overscale effect of adjusting the model for printability, this is often not a real issue.) Also there are now many specialist modeling books like the Nuts and Bolts, and Kagero books which contain nice and accurate drawings.
( I have all the Speilbergers, most of the Panzer Tracts and Hunnicutts, plus over 200 reference books (including 30+ Jane's)... )

Once you have a good drawing, you need to establish the scale it is printed in by comparing the drawn size vs a known dimension. (Good drawings have a scale bar.) Just because the drawing was meant to be printed at 1/35, say, doesn't mean the printer got it right. The Bradford books especially suffer from this.
Usually there will be a 20ft bar ( or similar).
20x12x25.4 / measured size = scale factor
To get to 1/200, I then divide the scale factor by 200.
This resultant number is used to multiply every dimension measured off the drawing to give the 1/200 size.
Remember to double-check the real size/200 vs the measured size x resultant scale factor. They should be the same...

Drawing the unit, I always start with a side-on sketch showing the track outlines, wheels, and hull profile.
Sizes are adjusted to fit the parameters above, especially track thickness 0.6mm for delicate tracks, 0.8mm for heavier, 1mm for very heavy. Wheels are positioned so that they intersect the track by approx 0.2mm to ensure that there's something holding the tracks together.
See pic1

I tend to fully draw one side of the vehicle, where symetrical, and mirror all the events when done, then add all the assymetrical details.

This is the time where lots of reference photos are required, to see if that bit goes in, or out, and at what angle...  this is where you'll find the errors in the drawings. Minor ones I ignore, major ones I go with the photos.

Try to keep XZ axis gaps 0.5mm or bigger if you need to remove support from them. My most used cleaning tool is a chunky  Xacto holder with an old blade which I have filed off the cutting edges from. This makes a fine prodding tool with a 0.5mm thick, strong blade which is too blunt and unpointy to stab myself with.

Pic2 shows many of the above discussed points, ie thick trackguard brackets, wheels intersecting tracks, slightly exaggerated gap above track for cleaning out supports. It also shows one trick for making finer detail that the printer thinks it is capable of. Detail, either raised or recessed, with a 45 degree chamfer to its edges will print. You can get away with a mere 0.4mm wall on XY as long as the sides of the inside slope inwards at 45 degrees, same in XZ with raised detail as you can see on the tool boxes of the Luchs.

Model, pic3

I prefer to print my gun barrels parallel to the build table ie flat, which is why I draw them with flat bottoms, to give the support something to build on. At 1:200 you really can't see the difference.

One final note: on the Up, at any rate, for some reason you get nicer XZ surface finish AND far better results with the bottoms of wheels if you rotate the part 45 degrees in XY on the build table.

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I wanted to try one of the new WWI models, so I picked out a Mk I Male.  200% zoom, .1mm resolution, with support.  It took several hours, but turned out very nice.  No cleanup yet; all I did was remove the support material.

I'm always impressed with the level of detail I can get with these models and my printer!

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That is impressive.  You've certainly spent a lot of time, not just researching the armor subjects, but also determining the best results for the printing process.

Your screenshot of Solidworks is somewhat intimidating...that's a lot of buttons!

The 45 degree chamfer trick is interesting.  I'll have to try rotating the model 45 degrees XY too.  It never occurred to me to alter the orientation in that manner.

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I see I missed a few questions.
Time to draw, about 3 day's worth of tea and lunch breaks on average. But then I print a test sample and sometimes have to optimise the model.
There's only 2 museums with significant military content here, on the North Island of New Zealand - the nearest is 250km away... sad
I use Solidworks all day, every day in my job as product and injection mould designer, so I feel lost without my buttons.

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New Zealand? dont know why I thought you where from Germany must be thinking of dif guy on Thingaverse. yes I too have learned to watch some of those tricks about printer and how to lay object , set slicer for best support width etc even force support so many layers if only wanted on bottom area. also when rescaling need to run rescaled stl through netfab again to see if anything got out of watertight range etc. and anything long and thin needs layed flat so its not like a stack of tiny dimes or knocked over mid print. I even got the machinegun to print in 200th scale that way.

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any chance of doing any War Motorcycles or tracked bikes/sidecar? also more amphibious vehicles like Goat, Weasel, Otter, Gator, APCs wheeled and tracked and Tanks with water fording modifications and the portable bridge tank that had a folding bridge to span small steams or gaps. the nick names is all I know for these not military ID numbers sorry.
half-track recovery vehicle, later full track also wheeled type in the late 60s

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