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Re: Eliminate banding: 5mm Theaded Rod Fitment Kit

Find a pipe that can fit over the threaded rod, and is shorter.  Put a large washer over the top of the rod, resting on top of the pipe.  Thread a 5/18 nut over the rod.  As you tighten the nut it will bottom out on the washer, and since it can't go down any more, it will start pulling the rod up.

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IanJohnson wrote:

Find a pipe that can fit over the threaded rod, and is shorter.  Put a large washer over the top of the rod, resting on top of the pipe.  Thread a 5/18 nut over the rod.  As you tighten the nut it will bottom out on the washer, and since it can't go down any more, it will start pulling the rod up.

You are going to want to use 2 addition nuts on the top of the rod jammed together that you will put a wrench on the keep the rod from spinning while tightening the nut on the pipe. Or if you don't care about the threads on the rod, a set of vise grips will do the same thing.

This is what my pictures are attempting to show. I just happen to have a tool that encapsulates a 5/16" nut. Same concept. Per usual Ian is able to explain it in a much simpler way.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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That worked like a charm thanks guys smile

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Hi I don't understand what the 16x microstepping is?

Putting aside that this improves the print quality why do we need so many steps? I mean if the stepper is capable of turning so accurately why would we need to move the z axis less then .05mm?

I don't really understand stepper motors very well (but i want too). If you look at a cnc lead screw its 10mm or more yet it has far higher accuracy then we can hope to acheive? Is this just because its a high precision component?

55 (edited by adrian 2013-06-05 13:39:00)

Re: Eliminate banding: 5mm Theaded Rod Fitment Kit

Staffordknot: Quieter, smoother operation, better torque for less current, Greater accuracy over full steps as every step really isn't dead on 1.8°.. cooler motor operation...

http://www.stepperworld.com/Tutorials/p … epping.htm
http://www.zaber.com/wiki/Microstepping_Tutorial

Thanks all for this. It has massively improved print quality. Keep in mind I'm dialling in a new hot-end still and have some flow issues; but heres my results, deliberately back lit to enhance the surface contrast:
Before on Left, After on Right:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3807/8958734136_44b702abec_c.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5346/8957509499_7252eef391_z.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3820/8957518603_7a51a92fc3_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7418/8957501295_6eae86960a_z.jpg

And a 0.05mm:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8401/8957817847_13eba0dcdc_z.jpg

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This mod is working great for me! thanks to all of you so much! Im still having some issues with bridging and curling , but Im pretty sure thats due to me not having a fan installed yet. smile

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Lawsy,

would you recommend this mod over the m3 rod, that people have done?
I know you came up with this mod, I was just wondering if the m3 rod is that much better?

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The finer the pitch, the better the results should be. I think the consensus is both are a good improvement over stock so most go with m5 because it's more convenient to gather parts for.

For the record, I wasn't the one who did this first, I just organised my version into a pretty thread.

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lawsy wrote:

The finer the pitch, the better the results should be. I think the consensus is both are a good improvement over stock so most go with m5 because it's more convenient to gather parts for.

For the record, I wasn't the one who did this first, I just organised my version into a pretty thread.

oh ok cool. thankyou for the help.

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wilheldp wrote:

I wish SD hadn't changed the overall design so much when they went to the aluminum platform.  The four holes are in the top surface of the platform carriage, but they just welded a nut to the bottom side of it instead of using the four hole connection that allows the nut hugger to grip.

its called a blind nut. I have a kit of them with tool to set them, they work like pictured

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nobody posted what to set steps per mm for 5mm rod did they?

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http://www.soliforum.com/post/24570/#p24570

Tealvince posted them there.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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thanks, ok where can I get the 'M5 x .5 (fine thread): 3200/0.5 = 6400' rod? Lowes has 5mm all thread rods 12" long but dont see if fine or coarse threads

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also even using the aluminum flex coupler looks like I still loose Z height on my SD2.

why didnt Solidoodle put the Z motor at top like the Press is now? but they still have the same double duty belts driving 'Y' carriage instead of direct drive to replace 1 belt

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