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Topic: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

Hi guys,
My name is Nick and I work for the Technological Educational Institute of Crete in Greece. So , we have a XYZ Da Vinci as I say on the title and we ordered a Titan Aero hot end and the extruder of its. So we put it on successfully but we can not print.. The thing is that it doesn`t extrude with the speed that the printer needs. So we end up with a failed part. The stepper motor from XYZ has 1.8 Deg per step and the Titan has 0.9 deg per step. So after we tryed to print with the Titan Motor and we saw that it failed we put the XYZ`s motor but that was also a failure. We use the original firmwares and as a slicer we use the XYZ`s app XYZware PRO. We changed the extrusion ratio to 200% but it also failed. Down you will see 3 excables with the XYZ motor.
Please we need help to find that solution.
Thank you very much.

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

I am pretty sure you can't use the aero on a stock machine as you need access to the firmware to be able to change the steps per mm on the extruder motor. You would need to flash it with Repetier firmware but you lose your scanner and engraver capabilities.

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

and how can we do that?
Thank you for responding

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

Another way would be to do this is to interrupt the step pin before it gets to the driver, and use an arduino nano to convert the steps to the steps you need to use the Titan. It's complicated and you loose the main benifit of using the Titan, which was the higher resolution provided by the gearing and degrees per step of the motor.

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

When swapping from a regular direct drive extruder and hot end  there are several changes that need to be made preferably in the firmware.
1 extruder direction this can also be done by swapping a cole of wires.

2 steps per mm as the titan is 3:1 gear ratio.  you normally  need to triple steps per mm

in your case  increased by 1.5.

3 you need to Change the firmware to read the new  Semitec 104GT thermistor this option can be selected in marlin or for repetier one need to reset the thermistor table.

4 last but not least one also need to run a pid auto tune and manually reset the values.
then tune the steps per mm as a calibration step.


Changing  the hot end is not difficult on an open source machine . the problem is the davinci and others are not open source although some do allow for many of these adjustments though the host program

Soliddoodle 4 stock w glass bed------Folger Tech Prusa 2020 upgraded to and titan /aero extruder mirror bed
FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
Marlin/Repetier Host/ Slic3r and Cura

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

Seems like he's using stock firmware. Changing steps will have to be done hardware wise. (and software in new translator)
It possible to change the steps without flashing firmware but it's complicated.

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

jaydog wrote:

Seems like he's using stock firmware. Changing steps will have to be done hardware wise. (and software in new translator)
It possible to change the steps without flashing firmware but it's complicated.

If he wants to switch to Repetier firmware then he can change his steps all he wants. Like I said though he will permantly loose his laser and scanner unless he can find a copy of the original BIN file the Bossac to reflash it. Repetier does not support the scanner or engraver.

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

OK. This may work. Look on thingiverse for pitan. The gear ratio is 3:1. You can also look up customizable gears. If you mod the design to 2:1, it should work with the higher extrusion rate you mentioned earlier. No other mods needed.
Anyone willing to mod the gear ratio on pitan?

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

This way he keeps his scanner and mostly stock machine.
I recommend printing davinci e3d v6 z-offset, and drop in e3dv6 for davinci pro (true drop in!) itt gets the better printing quality and it's easy

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

jaydog wrote:

OK. This may work. Look on thingiverse for pitan. The gear ratio is 3:1. You can also look up customizable gears. If you mod the design to 2:1, it should work with the higher extrusion rate you mentioned earlier. No other mods needed.
Anyone willing to mod the gear ratio on pitan?


If you mod the gear ratio then you defeat the purpose of the new extruder and it's higher torque.

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci 1.0 AiO 3in1 Titan Aero Help

Torque isn't the issue. Anyone ever heard clicking? 2:1 is double torque. He's good. I don't think a half sized motor Will last long on stock machine but the details are sparse. Let's let the op get back to us with more info.