1 (edited by AZERATE 2017-05-22 16:53:55)

Topic: [ABS] Generic black

I had just received a new order from Filastruder which included pre-colored black PA757, MG94, and an unknown Gereic ABS. Today, I will be covering the generic black ABS.
http://i.imgur.com/ZyabcOW.jpg

In comparison to any other pellets I've seen, the Generic ABS pellets are easily identified by their oval shape with a common pattern of three dimples on each pellet. Since there is such little info on this specific ABS, I was a little scared to start testing with it, fearing I may damage my Filastruder from testing with improper temps, but I took the plunge and was honestly surprised.
http://i.imgur.com/mEJTgue.jpg

Extruder:
Mostly stock Filastruder v1.6 #1870 extruding vertically with full barrel header wrap insulation, melt filter, and a Filawinder
http://i.imgur.com/5yJrPZ9.jpg

Mixing: No mixing is needed, nor is cleanup. This is a clean-cut extrusion just like virgin extrusion.

Extrusion:
Temp: 190c
Rate: 10-12" per minute
Average diameter: 1.84 +/- 0.03mm
The smell of the extrusion process had a very......interesting note. It was as bold as PA747, but more sour with a citrus hint. This is definitely a polymer you want to crack a door or window for since there is such little info. I was very happy with the speed, but the diameter was a little higher than I would have liked, so maybe bump the temp up a hair next time.
http://i.imgur.com/jc72UmI.jpg

Printer:
Solidoodle 2, E3D v6/Titan/Volcano 0.6mm nozzle, Lawsy carriages, Claghorn's direct Y drive, pillow blocks, bed stabilizer, fishing line, Sanguinololu, DRV8825, mirror bed and Aqua Net.

Printing:
Printing was smooth and actually acted like PA747. By that, I mean the filament cooled quickly and lost most of its gloss. The sour smell was still present while printing but was not as prominent as it was during extrusion.
http://i.imgur.com/MH0vUua.jpg

Comparison to available filament:
I've bought or made at least 100kg of black ABS. The Generic ABS has less of a sheen than MG94 (high gloss), but far more than PA747 (flat), and appears much more like a traditional spool from Octave, Coex, or Hatchbox.

Takeaway and comments:
I really wasn't expecting much from this because of the name on the product. I mean, come on...."Generic"? But I was wrong. It is actually nice to have a polymer to go to when I have to make a quick roll as fast as possible while keeping quality. Much like with the pre colored MG94 black pellets, the color consistency is at the same professional level as a purchased roll. I will definitely be picking some more up in the future.

Printit Mason and Printit Horizon printers
Multiple SD2s- Bulldog XL, E3D v5/v6/Lite6, Volcano, Hobb Goblin, Titan, .9 motor, Lawsy carriages, direct Y drive, fishing line...the list goes on
Filawinder and Filastruder #1870.....worth every penny!

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Re: [ABS] Generic black

Nice, thanks for the review!

Hopefully its a good budget option, at 2.50/lb shipped (if you get the order over $100 to trigger free shipping).

Is that +/-0.3mm correct or a typo?

Should be able to get even faster extrusion bumping the temperature up.

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oops! Fixed. Thanks.

It absolutely is a great affordable option. 40lbs for $100 is crazy. Even with 1kg of MG94 we are already making filament at a fraction of the cost, and this generic stuff is a great option for people on a budget or where profits are important.

Printit Mason and Printit Horizon printers
Multiple SD2s- Bulldog XL, E3D v5/v6/Lite6, Volcano, Hobb Goblin, Titan, .9 motor, Lawsy carriages, direct Y drive, fishing line...the list goes on
Filawinder and Filastruder #1870.....worth every penny!

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What nozzle diameter are you using?

Cheers

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JoaoGripp wrote:

What nozzle diameter are you using?

It's funny someone commented on the as I was just extruding more of this last night.

My Filastruder is using the stock/predrilled nozzle. Printer used had a .6 nozzle. Hope that answers your question.

Printit Mason and Printit Horizon printers
Multiple SD2s- Bulldog XL, E3D v5/v6/Lite6, Volcano, Hobb Goblin, Titan, .9 motor, Lawsy carriages, direct Y drive, fishing line...the list goes on
Filawinder and Filastruder #1870.....worth every penny!

6 (edited by Gabriel 2018-05-20 08:47:04)

Re: [ABS] Generic black

AZERATE wrote:

oops! Fixed. Thanks.

It absolutely is a great affordable option. 40lbs for $100 is crazy. Even with 1kg of MG94 we are already making filament at a fraction of the cost, and this generic stuff is a great option for people on a budget or where profits are important.

Totally worth it!

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Thank You for the post. I am putting together an order for a Filastruder ver 2, Filawinder and 40 pounds of the white ABS.

Tevo Black Widow
MonoPrice Mini Delta
TonXY X5S-400, 2 each
Filastruder and Filawinder on order