Very messy beginning layers (pics) (Page 1 of 2)

How did you calibrate your extrusion. This still looks like over extrusion. What kind of printer are we talking about and does it have any mods?

I did the 100mm straw method. And it's measuring pretty much 100mm. Sorry forgot to mention it's a S4 with e3d lite6 with glass bed

looks like too much plastic and your nozzle is dragging and looks like the layers are lifting in spots.
clean the bed plate and check the extrusion multiplier in slic3r. may need to lower it a  bit.
Also what is your first layer speed set for.

sounds like you did the steps/mm calibration, but did you calibrate the filament itself?

measure the diameter of the filament in multiple places over several feet (couple of meters) to get an average diameter - enter that average into your software in the filament settings for "filament diameter".

then print a single wall calibration cube with the extrusion multiplier set at 1 - let it cool, then measure the wall thickness on all 4 walls and average those... the number you are shooting for will correlate with your nozzle size - a 0.4 nozzle should have a wall thickness of 0.48 - my guess is that your wall thickness is going to be larger initially - probably around 0.52-0.55...

once you have your average wall thickness, you need to calculate a new extrusion multiplier - the formula for that is:
desired measurement / actual measurement = extrusion multiplier
example: 0.48 / 0.52 = 0.923xxxxx  (you should not need more than 3 decimal places for this, 2 is usually sufficient however)

enter the new extrusion multiplier in the software and make sure you save!

print the single wall calibration cube again, let cool, and measure the walls again - you should be at your target dimension.

All of that said - I have spool of Hatchbox red ABS that likes to "over-extrude" on the first layer - even after careful calibration. I have found that if I turn the flow rate down a little for just that first layer, I get better results.

Who is right?

I'll take credit where I can get it, sorry AZERATE.

My first layer speed it currently at 30mm/s

Here are some of my settings sorry if its small

I have but not with this new hatchbox filament, I will do that and post results

leave the flow rate alone while doing the calibrations.. only use that if absolutely necessary.

Every spool will need to be calibrated as every spool will be different. Even 2 spools of the same material, brand & color will be different from each other.
Once you get used to doing the calibration routine, it can be accomplished in under 10-15 minutes.

Try setting your first layer extrusion within advanced settings to about 150% mine is set to 140% default is 200%. yours is set for 100% or same as your top line.

I tried 200 % yesterday and air space between the lines .  and 50% would not even print.
I am with you on this one my first layers are a little funky and I would like to get them tuned better  as well, mine not as extreme as yours.

Humor me and increase the distance from your nozzle and bed. For a .4 nozzle (which should be .48 in settings) it certainly looks like it is too hard to keep up. Your Z endstop needs to be triggered just right and different materials may require a different distance. If it is just a hair too close, the first layer may appear to be over extruding.

You can also try decreasing your temp from 240 to something like 233c. The latter is just throwing darts at the moment.

Do you mean me or wardjr??

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