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Topic: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Good day SoliNerds.

Minor share with you all out there.

I found that the x-axis motor get very hot! didnt like it at all.
According to a another thread the x-axis motor is overloaded fyi.

Do the following to preserve your precious solinoodle.

print this http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:32994

attach print to your x-axis motor(nema 14)

Put 12V on this here dem fan, and all heating issues are gone.

Note that you need to isolate your bed from the fan, causes warping if you dont.

Someone is welcome to redesign the fan mount to not allow airflow to bed.

Not my design.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Works very well.  My motor went from near skin burning hot (hours of use) to very cool + much cleaner looking prints overall...hopefully this will solve those very long prints from skipping steps after 8 hours of printing....(nothing like a ruined 8 hour print)...I couldn't get a good 3 hour print before I heatsinked and put a 60mm fan on the stepper drivers...maybe this is  what I needed to get that last bit or reliability so I can actually complete some work.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Thanks for this tip - I noticed the toasty motor myself and thus put this top of the list of 'must mods'. After installation, there is a noticeable decrease in motor temp. I actually printed it using some of the 'colour changing' (or 'color changing' for the yanks wink ) ABS.. it was clearly shifting to the 'warm' colour with the fan switched off - with the fan running, it stays firmly in the 'cool' colour.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

I have added this as well. Wasn't having a problem before, just added to be safe since. Works like a charm

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

How did you wire the power for this? Where you pull from?

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

jjcuff1 wrote:

How did you wire the power for this? Where you pull from?

I wired it from a external power supply, but if you connect it to your 12V DC input on your mainboard it should work aswell.
Not entirely sure how much current the solidoodle draws on default(my original psu one blew up), but i don't think a small fan will make a difference.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

I took the power off the board in back. There was a set of unused pin holes marked +12V / GND. It's next to where the LED lights plug in. Soldered in a 2 pin header, the fans I got had a matching fan header already on them, so I just spliced in longer wires.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Where do you get the fan for the mount?

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Here is where I got mine.

http://store.qu-bd.com/product.php?id_product=13

Price was good, plus I'm in the same state so shipping time was next day for me.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

wire10ga wrote:

Here is where I got mine.

http://store.qu-bd.com/product.php?id_product=13

Price was good, plus I'm in the same state so shipping time was next day for me.

Thank you!

I'm searching for a store in Europe that offers parts for 3D-printers.
Which tape does Solidoodle use to isolate the hot end?

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Look around at various sellers on emakershop.com, it's kind of an Etsy for 3d printing people. There are also a lot of European listings in the reprap.org wiki since RepRap is from there.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Can someone please post a pic from the pins where I can take the power from for the fan.
This would help a lot!

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

I did this with my own design cooler. Looks a little cleaner and with big wide air passages with a low speed fan motor is warm to the touch even after long print times.

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:68827

http://pdxmc.com/uploads/sd3/20130401_204952.jpg

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

nlancaster wrote:

I did this with my own design cooler. Looks a little cleaner and with big wide air passages with a low speed fan motor is warm to the touch even after long print times.

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:68827

http://pdxmc.com/uploads/sd3/20130401_204952.jpg

Nice Work man. Very Nice.

Any chance you can make a Rev 2 where the air gets forced out to the side of solidoodle?(away from the bed)

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Xaro I will look into it.  change of air direction will make it a much more complicated part.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Does this apply to the SD2 and SD3? Do both use the same size motor?

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Jebus314 wrote:

Does this apply to the SD2 and SD3? Do both use the same size motor?

Yes

Did nlancaster mod to my SD3 and it is cool now smile
Pain was to solder two headers to board to get 12v, i also added resistor to get voltage down to 9v as it was too loud.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Why does the x-axis motor get so hot but they y-axis doesn't?  I understand that the z-axis operates much less frequently, but it seems like the x and y would be similar.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

wilheldp wrote:

Why does the x-axis motor get so hot but they y-axis doesn't?  I understand that the z-axis operates much less frequently, but it seems like the x and y would be similar.

Y motor is attached directly to the SD frame, using it like one giant heatsink.  X motor is floating in the middle of a hot-air bath.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

Also, the x-motor is driven harder relative to its current rating than the y motor.

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Re: X-Axis Motor Cooling FTW!

I haven't modded my SD with any fans yet, is it possible to get a fan for cooling the plastic out of the extruder as well as a fan for the x motor, or is there no where to pull that power from?