kisslicer blows for SD2 (Page 2 of 2)

i can understand that... but can you point me on something that you can do with the 0.95f, and can't with the last version ?

apart the UI that changed , i didn't see something that stop me now, and that i can do before...

also even version 95f started adding things like pre check with partial netfab etc for errors soon as stl is loaded. I prefer doing such checks separate b4 loading for slicing with more complete versions of such programs, then rescale and check again then see if it slices good enough which often it still wont if downloaded from a 3d file site since like 98% have bad errors in files needing complete redesign often. also some need wall thickness etc tweaked to even see a wall when sliced. many look like swiss cheese plus lots of red parts in netfab that are not just inverted. have no clue whats wrong with those but if sliced the red parts are missing. just putting those file in a "later" folder in case a fix is found years from now lol

then it slices an un-printable gcode that is mostly off the build plate even though it was centered while slicing. LOL dont need that at all hence title of this thread

I have no idea where you are getting the idea that RH does all this stuff "for" you? That has not been my experience at all. It does what I ask it to do, and ONLY what I ask it to do... Have you even looked at the newer versions?

Here are a few screenshots of RH V1.0.6, and Slic3r v1.1.7 (yes, there are newer versions than this, just haven't gotten around to updating)

Main RH screen, when you first open it... it opens on the object placement tab for loading your models... (note: I use the "advanced" mode, not "easy" - maybe that is where your problem was with it - if you even tried it?)

Take a good look at the tools and tabs available...

next up is the slicer tab - you do have a couple of options for which slicer you prefer by clicking on the manager button. I like Slic3r, it works for me, but Cura is included as well if you prefer that...

Click on the configuration button and you get this...

LOADS of available options to tweak settings - everything from # of perimeters, top & bottom layers, and infill, to advanced settings like speeds, and extrusion widths....

Speed setting tab...

Advanced tab...

Back to RH - loaded a model and sliced, now we have the preview tab....

Using the tools on the left you can zoom in, turn/rotate it and inspect to your heart's content.. (in the object placement tab, you can move parts around on the bed, scale, mirror, rotate on whichever axis you choose - say if something is standing up and you want to lay it down...you get the idea.)
You can view as a complete sliced model, or you can view individual layers. You can even view the travel moves the printer will make...

Click on the g-code tab, and gee... you can even edit the g-code! Every. Single. Line.

and finally, the manual control tab... manually move any axis, change temps for both extruder & hot bed, alter feed & flow rates, part fan on/off & speed....

There is a lot more I could take screen shots of but I think this should do for now... Is there anything missing in here that you can do with v0.95? My guess is no...

Not trying to convince you to use it. Use whatever you like. But don't go making blanket statements about something if you have never actually used it.

like they say you can put a tuxedo on a pig but its still a pig.

I used to be a big fan of Kisslicer a while back, bu then in the later versions Jonathan tweaked the code to the point where your model had to be near perfect to get usable code.  Previous versions could slice models just fine, and the new version couldn't.

In fact I had a long and arduous "conversation" with some of forum groupies over there, which were basically insulating Jonathan from the rest of the world and preventing him from seeing the slippery slope he was on. 

Then Jonathan disappeared for personal reasons for about a year, the forum got spammed to the point it was shut down, although both Jonathan and a new forum came back eventually.  Lots of drama, but by then I had lost all interest in Kisslicer, and Slic3r had gotten better, then Cura came along, and frankly I haven't looked back.

As for RH, my only complaint with the new version is that it won't allow me to manually reposition a model vertically.  The earlier version let you enter numeric translation values for X Y and Z, the new version doesn't.   As such you loose the ability to ACCURATELY position a model (dragging it around is no substitute), and the ability to place a model above the print surface. 

That can be useful, for example, if you want to add a model that is supposed to sit on top of another.

For this reason I still keep the old version (.85b for me) for special function, but I use 1.0.2 for most of the work

I'm not sure how far back you go with Kisslicer, but somewhere after version 1.1.0.14 everything started to get really weird.  It would crash during slicing, or it would produce useless code. or generate partial slices by stopping when it found an error in the model.

Of course everything was blamed on the errors in the models, and I don't deny there were not perfect, but previous versions of Kisslicer would slice the same identical model perfectly.  I think the last version I tried was 1.2.xx something.

Maybe to you, the RH version is insignificant, but not to me.  The later versions have one major advantage as far as I'm concerned, they support Cura, but the older versions, by allowing me to accurately position parts, let me create my own supports or add supports when the slicer didn't do what I wanted.

I think Kisslicer was significant back in 2013/14 when Slic3r and Cura were still struggling.  It was very fast (at least compared to Slic3r), it produced dimensionally accurate models and it had a decent support generator.

Since then Slic3r has cought up, and Cura, in my opinion, surpasses it.  If nothing else, those 2 programs can slice models that have some errors and still produce a decent output.  I couldn't say that about Kisslicer.

But then again, if you like it and it works for you, great who am I t argue with success.