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Topic: Trouble installing E3D hotend

wardjr and AZERATE are attempting to talk me though, thanks smile. I have drilled a bigger hole and attempting to use the stock Sd2 temp sensor I have from my old hot end.  I currently have it at least working but reading much lower temps. For example to make it extrude PLA I am needing to set it to a temp of 75 degrees. But I haven't done the firmware yet. Apparently since I have the Solidoodle main board it's a little more compliacted but wardjr is attempting to help me out.

Wiring is just not my thing. Troubleshooting some code, sure. Buying the componets and putting them together, sure. So forgive my lack of aptitude on wiring. Hehe

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

I think you were wrong.  I AM worst then a blind epileptic panda in the wiring department wink Hehehe. But i'm getting there and I didn't burn anything down in the process tongue

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I'm fairly certain your electrical/soldering skills are superior to mine. I blind epileptic panda with one arm has better electrical skills than me big_smile

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

Apparently flashing the E3D friendly firmware on the new Soliddoodle main boards is a difficult process. So maybe the fact that for whatever reason my temps are reading half is a blessing in disguise with the stock SD2 temp reader, if I can just figure what to print at what temp.  To go to the E3D temp reader now, I would need another $35+ in parts (new temp reader and new lil block since I drilled it for the stock Sd2 temp reader).

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

Ah just in case someone reads this later and has the same problem. Apparently the low temp reading maybe due to me making the hole too big (I was told to drill it bigger, so I just used my judgement and tried to make it big enough for the stock SD2 temp reader). Seems I may need to buy a new lil metal block, but if I have to do that then I minds of well try the temp reader again. Biggest problem is that it will be another $35 or so and several days.

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

The fact that your temperatures are reading half is not a blessing in disguise, it is an indication that either the thermistor is installed incorrectly, or the thermistor/wiring is damaged. What temperature does it read at room temperature? What is your house thermostat indicating at the same time?

Did you heat to 300C and torque the nozzle?
Did you follow the wiki? If so, what step are you currently on?

My offer to send a thermistor with kapton and wiring already completed still stands. Heck, I'll send it for free at this point. Just need a PM with where you'd like it to go.

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

elmoret wrote:

The fact that your temperatures are reading half is not a blessing in disguise, it is an indication that either the thermistor is installed incorrectly, or the thermistor/wiring is damaged. What temperature does it read at room temperature? What is your house thermostat indicating at the same time?

Did you heat to 300C and torque the nozzle?
Did you follow the wiki? If so, what step are you currently on?

My offer to send a thermistor with kapton and wiring already completed still stands. Heck, I'll send it for free at this point. Just need a PM with where you'd like it to go.

There you go... Can't find customer support like that anymore smile

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

I do know the temp reader worked on the stock hot end, but maybe my hole is too big. It could very well it is sticking out too much, as I was afraid to dill too deep as it was getting close to the nozzle.

The thermistor with kapton would work if I hadn't drilled the hole bigger for the stock SD2 temp reader. If I have to order a new lil metal block and the temp reader I'll send you the order number and I'll take you up on the offer to have the temp reader attached to the high temp wire

"Did you heat to 300C and torque the nozzle?" - No because of the screwy temps and it got late last night

"Did you follow the wiki? If so, what step are you currently on?" - On the part where you simply test it by plugging it in. My heater block and fan are a go, just the temp sensor was producing errors in R-H (I assume my fault) so I switched to the stock SD2 one.

I don't blame you for this, I am probbaly just inept at wiring.

I haven't done firmware or any settings, as I had to go to sleep and am at work for a few more hours right now.

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

For the record I don't blame the Filastruder people. I was probbaly too wiring inept for a project like this. I will say the heat sink is super sexy design smile If I can't get it working, I will totally display the heatsink like a peice of art.

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I've never done this (assembled a thermistor/wiring/heaterblock for a customer) before, but its all yours if you want it. Tested the bare end of the wires, 107kohms at 22C, right on target for a 102GT-2.

I timed myself at 6 minutes, 32 seconds. Sounds like I'm out of practice.

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

Ok, how to I buy it at your store? Do I just pay for a block and a temp sensor and send you the order number? It's not your fault I was inept.

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

LdyMox wrote:

Ok, how to I buy it at your store? Do I just pay for a block and a temp sensor and send you the order number? It's not your fault I was inept.

Free. Just PM me where you'd like it sent. I want you to have a good experience, truly. Don't worry about the cost. 6 hours of time is payment enough already!

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

Thanks a bunch. I assure you I am not tech inept, just wiring inept hehe

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Re: Trouble installing E3D hotend

I sent a PM, though I have to ask, is there a way to get an e-mail when you get a PM on these boards? I am suspecting not given the few options.

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Nope. You can also email me at filastruder at gmail, (in fact I prefer email), but I thought PMs were easier since you're active here.

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