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Topic: 3d Prrinter Buying Guide

Hello Everyone, I am ciciliamarlen looking to buy a 3d printer for my home with the latest technology. I have never bought a printer and have zero experience with it. Can someone me the most popular 3d printer.

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Re: 3d Prrinter Buying Guide

hi ciciliamarlen...
the 'most popular printer' may not be the right choice for your needs. You need to think about what you want to do with the printer before you spend any money.

what do you want to do with the printer? Figurines? toys? functional items? cosplay?
what kind of budget do you have?
do you want "big" or will a smaller print volume work for you? again, what do you want to do with it?
Do you have any allergies? (yes, i ask this now, because some are quite sensitive to certain materials/processes)
are their others in your household that might be sensitive to materials/processes?
what kind of space do you have to set it up in?

buying the "latest technology" is not necessarily a great idea... yes, innovation is good, but buying the latest model with brand new tech on it can be problematic... buying something a bit more "tried and true" is far more worthwhile for a beginner. kind of like buying a brand new car model, with lots of fancy tech built in... the first model year usually has issues and bugs that need to be worked out...

also, buying the cheapest you can find is a bad idea... cheap does not equal good... more often than not, cheap = frustration and headaches
same goes for the materials.. cheap materials are made with who knows what, and can quite often cause problems that quality materials never have.

something else to consider... easy of obtaining parts and supplies for the printer in your location.  I am guessing with your sentence structure, english is not your native language. Depending on your location, the ability to obtain parts and supplies can sometimes be a challenge.

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3 (edited by Tin Falcon 2021-10-22 22:37:20)

Re: 3d Prrinter Buying Guide

I suggest you learn as much as you can about 3d printers before you make a choice.
If possible visit a local makers space even take a class. You tube can be a great source

3d printing nerd, 3d printing professor, Mike Lawsey of Teaching tech. Angus from makers muse , CHEP and last but not least this series

there are many kinematics to consider . IIRC  I took 3-6 months searching on line before i purchased my first.

the other thing to consider before purchasing a large printer is the law of scaling.
3 a inch cube will take approx. 27 times as long to print as a 1 inch cube with fdm technology.
Also one needs to consider what design software he or she wants to learn.


This skill is the difference between a tool and a toy.
There are many layers to this hobby. lots to learn . Not insurmountable but not as easy as the media would lead you to believe.
Also where in the word are you. knowing general area can help us help you.
Do not rely on  online best 3d printer lists they are often off base. sometimes good but IMHO not to be relied upon. .

Take some time and read the posts here and on other forums . The question you ask is  is a bit of a dead horse post asked a thousand times before. and will likely continue . so learn what you can from the other 999 similar threads.

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Thank you for your replies. I will go through the above videos and look at the features of the latest printers before purchasing.

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ciciliamarlen wrote:

Thank you for your replies. I will go through the above videos and look at the features of the latest printers before purchasing.

do NOT base your decision strictly on reviews of the "latest features"

again... what you want to do, what materials you want to use.. these are also just as, if not MORE important than any "features"
You can have all the "features" you want, but if it wont do what you need it to do.. it is useless

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heartless wrote:
ciciliamarlen wrote:

Thank you for your replies. I will go through the above videos and look at the features of the latest printers before purchasing.

do NOT base your decision strictly on reviews of the "latest features"

again... what you want to do, what materials you want to use.. these are also just as, if not MORE important than any "features"
You can have all the "features" you want, but if it wont do what you need it to do.. it is useless

Yep forget about features. Get a basic printer to start with. As basic as it needs to be to accomplish what you want. The more features it is the more stuff there is to break and then you are stuck to figure out what is wrong. There are very few places that work on printers. Most owners do all the work themselves.

I bet you have an iPhone. Just guessing since you are a newest feature junkie.

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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I bet you have an iPhone. Just guessing since you are a newest feature junkie.

LOL

Now Carl.. be nice.  wink

i had an iPhone once.. LONG time ago.. LOL

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Thank you for all the suggestions. After reading all the replies, I did some research on 3D printers and their uses. here I am very much confused to choose a perfect one for me. there are various printer types like resin 3D printers, FDM 3D printers, SLA 3D printers and more. I have no idea about any of them and how they work. I am looking for 3D printer that is used for completing small tasks like school projects, making toys and more. Please suggest a 3D printer that helps me to complete my tasks.

9 (edited by Tin Falcon 2021-10-28 23:46:59)

Re: 3d Prrinter Buying Guide

You need to figure out what is best for you.
and you need to ask yourself if a 3d printer is even right for you.
The media will tell folks that you can make anything with the push of a button .it is not that easy.
fist of all you need a file stl etc. sure you can download from thiniverse but you need to know if the file you download will even print.
To really make use one needs to be familiar with 3d cad.
and you need to understand how to use a slicer/cam program.
You need a bit of tenacity
you need a good understanding of math, physics , electronics, mechanics a bit of g code, computer programing. . you need to be able to fix things and figure things out.  Most printer have marginal operators manual much less a repair manual.
there are very few places to take a hobby level printer to be repaired . one needs to be able to repair them themselves.
OMHO the consumer market never really existed although some products are close.
Misused one can burn themselves and in extreme cases they can catch fire.

Here is a list of reputable manufacturers and a reputable dealer.

https://www.monoprice.com/category/3d-p … ccessories

https://www.creality3dofficial.com/coll … der-series

https://www.prusa3d.com

https://www.flashforge.com

https://www.printedsolid.com

Since you have failed to answer many  questions it is a little difficult to advise you.
We will help but we do not pick  printers for folks.
If you can not narrow your choices to a few you are not likely to figure out 3d printing. Take your time do your homework.

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I am looking for 3D printer that is used for completing small tasks like school projects, making toys and more.

ok, so this is kind of a step in the right direction. I would suggest, based on your above comment, that an FDM/FFF style printer would be type you should be looking for.
This is by far the most common type, but has many variations in how they are constructed. My preference would be a "box" or "cube" shaped printer.. not the i3 type with an upside down "U" upper frame - or the cantilever styles.. Why? Stability! The more stable the frame is, the better.

But again... WHERE you are located in the world will have a very large impact on what specific printers, parts and supplies will be easily available to you.
Sure, I could tell you to buy XX printer from Y dealer.. but unless they are willing to ship it, and any needed parts or supplies to you, that is a pointless exercise in frustration. You need to know what is available to you where you are.

Tin Falcon is correct when he suggests that you need (or should have) at least a little mechanical aptitude.
This is not something that you can take to your local appliance repair, or mechanic to get fixed if something breaks or does not work right. You need to be able to trouble shoot, identify, and have the ability to disassemble and reassemble the printer.
OR, know someone personally that can help you in that regard.

All 3d printing begins with a 3d computer model. Yes, there are websites that have models available for download, sometimes for free, sometimes at a small cost. But being able to make your own is vastly better - especially if it will be used for school projects. Maybe there is something out there available for download, but again, maybe not. If you can create your own, you are ahead of the game.

Another point - Just because a model exists does not automatically make it printable and some models will print better on one type of machine over another.
Size of the model, how well it was made, the way it is oriented all play a role in successful printing.

You say "school projects" which suggests at least one child - how old? young children can get seriously hurt if not supervised around the printer.

FDM/FFF printers have at least one, usually 2, heat sources - the hotend that melts the plastic and usually the bed on which the model is printed.
The hotend alone can cause serious burns if one is not careful around it - printing temperatures can typically range from 200C on up. But it is not just the heat sources that can cause injury.. many moving parts can cause pinch injuries - especially for little fingers.

Yes, buying a 3d printer can be a daunting task if you have no idea how they work, or why. Educating yourself - doing your homework - is not something to be overlooked. Yes, it takes time and effort, but it is well worth it if this is something you really want.

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Please do not feel we are discouraging you .3D printing is easy , any 5 year  old can do it , with 10 years experience.  The fact of the matter is there is a bit of a learning curve . Do your homework. lest you end up frustrated or with an expensive paperweight.
Like Heartless mentioned a basic cube design aka cartesian printer is going to be the most stable. . although I have a couple of the prusa style and a cantilever deisgn and they all work well. imho the biggest learning curve is using a slicer program effectively.
the two that most folks use are sc3r derivatives ie prusa slicer or supersicer  and cura.
Getting the printer mechanical tuned and the right profile is the difference between a successful print and a blob of plastic or plastic spaghetti  .
simplify 3d has a great web page
https://www.simplify3d.com/support/prin … eshooting/

And this page by Teaching tech you tube channel.
https://teachingtechyt.github.io/calibration.html
Do not concern yourself to much with these pages yet . Familiarize yourself with them.
most importantly book mark them so when you have a problem you can reference them .
The knowledge in these two pages are invaluable.
The other consideration is open sourced printers one that uses off the shelf readily available parts. Know how to troubleshoot and fix.
We want you to be prepared so when you get a printer and when you have problems with it you are prepared and know how to fix the issue or al least know where to find help.
I have seen photos of folks so frustrated with a 3d printer they took a hammer to it threw it in a bin , photographed it and posted the pic on line.

So take a deep breath figure out some options and the folks here can help narrow them down.
My grand kids love to 3d print things when they are here. most of my printers are open ie no plexiglass walls to keep little fingers safe. They know they are not allowed in the shop without permission and they know not to stick there fingers in the printer.
A fully enclosed printer is better to have around kids but a bit more money than an open one.
Hope this helps
Tin  Falcon

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FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
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The other factor that heartless eluded to is not only what printer to buy but where to buy it. Do not buy a printer direct from china as there will be not real tech support. Buy from a reputable local dealer or importer .IMHO a 3d printer is too expensive and too fragile to risk personal importing.
Any 3d printer it is a good idea to check all the nuts, bolts and electrical connections before trying to power on as things can come loose in shipment. 
Not to beat the proverbial dead horse but where in the world are you.

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FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
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Tin Falcon wrote:

You need to figure out what is best for you.
and you need to ask yourself if a 3d printer is even right for you.
The media will tell folks that you can make anything with the push of a button .it is not that easy.
fist of all you need a file stl etc. sure you can download from thiniverse but you need to know if the file you download will even print.
To really make use one needs to be familiar with 3d cad.
and you need to understand how to use a slicer/cam program.
You need a bit of tenacity
you need a good understanding of math, physics , electronics, mechanics a bit of g code, computer programing. . you need to be able to fix things and figure things out.  Most printer have marginal operators manual much less a repair manual.
there are very few places to take a hobby level printer to be repaired . one needs to be able to repair them themselves.
OMHO the consumer market never really existed although some products are close.
Misused one can burn themselves and in extreme cases they can catch fire.

Here is a list of reputable manufacturers and a reputable dealer.

https://www.monoprice.com/category/3d-p … ccessories

https://www.creality3dofficial.com/coll … der-series

https://www.prusa3d.com

https://www.flashforge.com

https://www.printedsolid.com

Since you have failed to answer many  questions it is a little difficult to advise you.
We will help but we do not pick  printers for folks.
If you can not narrow your choices to a few you are not likely to figure out 3d printing. Take your time do your homework.




Thank you so much for spending your valuable time for me. After looking at the links you suggested, even I did some research on different types of 3D printers. Out of many, these are the websites I preferred,


1. https://bestvalued.com/best-wi-fi-3d-printers

2. https://www.techradar.com/in/best/best-3d-printers


Now, I am thinking to go for Prusa Mini + 3D printer. I have read its features & specifications in the online store(amazon) as well. It is making me feel, that it is best option and can fulfil my requirements with ease.

What would be your suggestion, should I go with it or do you have any other best option other than that?

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And this page by Teaching tech you tube channel.
https://teachingtechyt.github.io/calibration.html

eww.. that page is HORRIBLE to look at... the color combination is really bad. light grey text on a white background? really? what are they thinking? That is nearly impossible to read.
Not to mention i see (barely) they are using S3D as a basis for calibration - i would not recommend that program, or anything related to it, either, for a couple of reasons.
1. they have fallen pretty far behind the curve with updates,
and 2. Cost...
Slic3r, and its derivatives, and Cura are free to use, and are leaps and bounds better than S3D these days.. yes, even Cura.. which i also do not care for, personally... but still better than S3D.

,...although I have a couple of the prusa style and a cantilever design and they all work...

LOL, you are not exactly new to this whole thing, either, Tin. Never said they wouldn't work, just that these are not something i would recommend to someone that is brand new to the world of 3D printing.
Any kind of instability can seriously throw things off, causing more headaches and frustration than actual prints.

just like I would not recommend a delta/kossel to someone brand new.. Yes, they are fascinating machines, and can do amazing things when set up correctly, but they are not new person friendly, tbh.

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Re: 3d Prrinter Buying Guide

No worries heartless Mike Lawsey of teaching tech one of the founders of this fine forum is the author of that page. The page  color does not bother me. Some people are just more sensitive. The page works with any slicer . and Mike has since switched to superslicer a fork of slic3r/prusa slicer. no way am i endorsing simplify 3d

Any kind of instability can seriously throw things off, causing more headaches and frustration than actual prints.

a very good point my fist printer is an SD4[Solidoodle4 no longer made]


In reference to s3d

1. they have fallen pretty far behind the curve with updates,
and 2. Cost.

You are correct on both accounts both reasons cited by Mike for changing.

I too like slic3r I have downloaded super slicer but have not done anything with it yet.
If the page colors are that bad for you contact mike and he may change them when the page is updated.

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If the page colors are that bad for you contact mike and he may change them when the page is updated.

well, this is what I see... and my monitor IS color calibrated with no over ride settings

contacting him seems like a waste of time from looking at the "contact me" page... probably would not even get a quick first glance, let alone a 2nd...

Color combinations - text & background - on websites are important.. especially if you want people to actually use the site... apparently he doesn't, not with those colors.

And my first was also an SD4 - which i now own 3 of, lol wink  the first one is still going strong, too.

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Re: 3d Prrinter Buying Guide

WOW that screen capture tells it all. It is very difficult to read  light gray on white. I see your difficulty.
I had to tilt my laptop screen to even almost read it.
However I do not think the problem is with the web page, as it comes up on my monitor fine, BLACK on white. I also hooked a TV via HDMI  again Black on white. I even had my wife who is very visually color sensitive  bring the page up on her computer. When I showed your screen capture to her on the TV her immediate reaction was ew .
So as painful as this may sound , seems like you need to adjust or  possibly replace your monitor. 
PS you may need to change gpu settings.
Tin Falcon

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18 (edited by Tin Falcon 2021-10-31 20:07:26)

Re: 3d Prrinter Buying Guide

Out of many, these are the websites I preferred,


1. https://bestvalued.com/best-wi-fi-3d-printers

2. https://www.techradar.com/in/best/best-3d-printers


Now, I am thinking to go for Prusa Mini + 3D printer. I have read its features & specifications in the online store(amazon) as well. It is making me feel, that it is best option and can fulfil my requirements with ease.

Both of those web sites are useless beyond informational purposes .
The first one is a marketing company marketing anything they can find not a 3d printing company of any kind. The second a Tech review company like I said information to take into account but not gospel.



https://www.prusa3d.com

https://www.prusaprinters.org

I have no personal experience with this printer. it is designed to be inexpensive by having minimal parts.

Prusa has an excellent reputation . the printers are tested extensively in there print farm before release. They have reputation for good tech support. All the printed parts are open source so that means one can and should download the files and print spare parts before the printer breaks. Prusa provide slicing profiles for prusa slicer . that takes most of the pain out of setting up your own .

This is a cantilever design so expect to have it finely tuned mechanically. This will not be as stable a a cube design recommended by heartless . This is an open printer so do not expect good results with  ABS this printer is designed for pla and petg. also no protection for or from little fingers if that is a concern .

Your dime your choice. There are certainly worse choices you could make.  The company will say this an excellent first print but guess what most marketing department will tell you that that is how they get customers.
so research the company and watch reviews on that printer.
IMHO the cantilever design is the least stable of cartesian printers. that said many reviewers find certain models to be stable work horses.

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FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
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Prusa mini part file here

https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/57 … able-parts

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MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
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and apparently does not read the comments fully...

that design is one that was specifically advised AGAINST.

but ok.. do what you like.. you asked, we offered advice.. in the end, it is your decision.. have fun

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look here:

https://www.prusa3d.com/product/original-prusa-xl-2/

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@ the OP.   so what did you end up with.
We like helping others here. a little feedback would be nice.

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