Topic: The fastest FDM printer
Is Core xy really faster than other FDM printers? Creality Ender 7 said it can print in 250mm/s. Is it true?
- carl_m1968
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Delta if designed right is fastest in my opinion.
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- Tin Falcon
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good question.
It is my understanding that the ender 7 is is currently in pre production beta testing stage.
As that i expect the specifications are hopeful estimates.
It is also my understanding there is more to a fast print than pure kinamatics.
There seems to be a current trend with core xy printers and one building there own and entering a speed boat race. IE sub 10 minute benchys. there are several home built printers in this category the rail core. a family of voron and a ratrig to name a few. This are premium printers that typically cost around $1500 USD to build.
It apears that ender is currently targeting that market. And iit only takes common sense to know there will be some trade offs as ender attempts to cut the cost to like half.
The 3 dprinting nerd you tube channel did an unboxing. and apparently ran into some significant issues. These are issues that ender will likely address as the unit goes into production.
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- heartless
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for me, it is not about speed, it is about precision.
the faster you go, the less precise things become, so.. whatever.
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5 2021-07-07 21:02:23 (edited by carl_m1968 2021-07-07 21:02:45)
- carl_m1968
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heartless wrote:
for me, it is not about speed, it is about precision.
the faster you go, the less precise things become, so.. whatever.
I agree. I never print faster than 45mm/s because I value precision and appearance over speed. I am not in a race nor do I need to prove anything. I own printers to do jobs and nothing more. If you are pushed for time then get more printers instead of pushing one to the limits and premature failure as well as sacrificing quality and precision.
Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.
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hey, one thing we actually agree on, Carl! LOL 
now, to answer the actual question posed... is corexy faster?
yeah, i would say it is - for a cartesian style printer, corexy is going to be the fastest.
Comparing cartesian to delta is like comparing apples and oranges...
BUT - you need to have a solid, rigid frame that is not going to flex in any way, nor will it bounce around (ie: weight)
a light weight printer is not going to handle going fast.
I happen to own a PrintIt Industries Horizon printer - that machine is capable of speeds in excess of 300mm/sec. Do I run it that fast normally? No, I do not. But it can do it. Has been proven, in public, at the Milwaukee Maker Fair a few years ago.
My "normal" print speeds on that are between 120 & 150mm/s
I also own a large format - Folgertech FT-5 - that i typically run at 120mm/s - it is not a corexy, just a standard cartesian design, but the frame rigidity allows it to run at a decent speed.
The SD4's i own, and use the most, only run at about 40mm/s. I could run them faster, but get excessive ringing if i do.
I ran a test piece last year as a challenge from a friend... a very specific test model that he provided, at 65mm/s on my favorite
SD4.
this pic shows the ringing the best....ABS run at 65mm/s and a 0.25 layer height
SD4 #1 & #2 - Lawsy carriages, E3D v6, Rumba controller board, mirror bed plate, X motor fan, upgraded PSU & Mica bed heater
SD4 #3 - in the works ~ Folgertech FT-5, rev 1
Printit Industries Beta Tester - Horizon H1
SD4 #3 - in the works ~ Folgertech FT-5, rev 1
Printit Industries Beta Tester - Horizon H1
7 2021-07-09 23:53:19 (edited by Tin Falcon 2021-07-11 12:05:45)
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while the current hype in 3d printing seems to be around the latest greatest core xy machine. there are other ways of increasing print speed. without severe quality loss. The key is understanding slicer settings.
this video explains the concept well.
Soliddoodle 4 stock w glass bed------Folger Tech Prusa 2020 upgraded to and titan /aero extruder mirror bed
FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
Marlin/Repetier Host/ Slic3r and Cura
FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
Marlin/Repetier Host/ Slic3r and Cura