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Topic: Y axis motor issues

First off, sorry for the long post and back story...

So I've had my 1.0 for a little while now, bought it used locally. After printing a built in test print from the original firmware to ensure that the printer works fine after I got it home, I promptly loaded Repetier to it, and after some dialing in it's been printing great ever since then, probably 2 dozen prints or so on my own ABS spool. Still can't seem to get prints to center in the bed with the new firmware, but that's another subject all together...

Yesterday I tried to start a print, a simple tool tray that I modeled, and upon the initial movement to the prints starting location, the nozzle struck the screw in the back right corner that holds the build plate down. This little jolt threw off my Y axis belt tension (which I didn't notice at first), but about 5 minutes into the print it started missing Y movements. So I stopped the print, noticed the main Y axis drive belt that runs on the Y axis motor was loose, so I popped the side off and adjusted it out to take out the slack. Put it back together, moved it around manually, and all seemed well.

I modified my G-code so that my print's start movement would go to the X and Y axis first before moving to the Z starting point so that it avoided the screw head the second time around... and that all worked great. I monitored and let the first 3 or 4 layers print and all looked like it was doing well. The print had 2 1/2 hours to go, so I went into town and let it be. Not the first time I've done that, and it's never given me issues before.

Well when I came back to it, I was greeted with a messy wall of ABS from left to right on the top of the print...

The Z axis had completely stopped moving and the machine basically just moved left to right for the rest of the print, extruding ABS into a solid thick wall lol.

I tried to check the axis movements and noticed that again, the Y axis main belt that the Y axis stepper motor directly drives was loose as can be... So I'm thinking that belt has stretched and I need to at least replace it...

But then I tried to manually reach up and turn the drive on the Y axis motor, and it felt locked up solid! So I pulled the motor out (mounting bracket still attached to it), and sure enough it was locked up, wouldn't budge...

Well, here's another crazy thing. I took the 4 screws out and removed the mounting bracket from it, then miraculously the darn thing was free and can spin just fine now... so I'm at a loss on that...


Should I take a chance with this temperamental motor, reinstall it and see how long it lasts? I do think I need to replace the belt on it at least... Should I just get a new motor and belt and not even bother trying this "sketchy" motor and probably stretched belt?

I know parts are hard to find for these (original parts anyway), so what options do I have for the Y axis motor and the small drive belt that's on it?


Thanks!

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Re: Y axis motor issues

http://ldomotors.com/products/show/42mm … per-series
Printed solid carries  a few of the common LDO motors
https://www.printedsolid.com/collection … 40-1004asc

A far a the belt you need to figure out the belt pitch and length
page t 15 should help you identify belt type. Most likely g2 as it is the most common belt type for 3d printers.

https://sdp-si.com/PDFS/Technical-Section-Timing.pdf


Hope this helps.

Soliddoodle 4 stock w glass bed------Folger Tech Prusa 2020 upgraded to and titan /aero extruder mirror bed
FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
Marlin/Repetier Host/ Slic3r and Cura

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Re: Y axis motor issues

Cool, thank you!

Well I think I found out what the belt tension issue was. The bearing mount above the Y axis motor actually broke into about 5 pieces... Apparently a common thing with these considering it's one of the few parts that you can actually buy directly from XYZ lol.

I actually split the stepper motor apart and pulled the rotor completely out just to inspect it. Everything looks normal, and it still spins freely after putting it back together and mounting it to the mounting bracket.

So for now I'm just going to order a couple of the bearing mounts and reinstall the old belt and motor with them and see what happens. For now the printer is just out of commission until the bearing mount arrives. Normally I'd just 3D print something like this little mount, but, yeah...

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Re: Y axis motor issues

that is why 3d printers are like potatoes chips. You cannot have just one LOL

seriously if you post an stl someone may be able to print one for you.

Soliddoodle 4 stock w glass bed------Folger Tech Prusa 2020 upgraded to and titan /aero extruder mirror bed
FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
Marlin/Repetier Host/ Slic3r and Cura

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Well, believe it or not, there was JUST enough of the bearing holder left to put one of the two screws back in and hold the bearing in place good enough to keep the belts tight enough for long enough to get the holder printed out! Installed the printed holder, everything seemed well, so I ran that same 3 hour print again and the newly printed bearing holder worked great, the new print came out flawless!

Wish I would have tried before I ordered 2 new original bearing holders... Oh well, got spares now I guess lol.


I actually have 2 printers, my other one is a cheap Chinese kit one, and older FLSun I3 style printer, but I've since decommissioned it as a 3D printer and turned it into a plotter for decal cutting tongue But I'm thinking about getting a Cricut and turning the old FLSun back into just a PLA printer and use my Da Vinci for ABS prints since it's enclosed.

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good to here you were able to Boot strap a print

Soliddoodle 4 stock w glass bed------Folger Tech Prusa 2020 upgraded to and titan /aero extruder mirror bed
FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
Marlin/Repetier Host/ Slic3r and Cura

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Yeah I'm still at a loss as to why the motor was locked up when I pulled it out... I guess time will tell how it holds out moving forward with it.