1 (edited by airsoftfarmer 2016-06-29 03:50:56)

Topic: SD3 total conversion

I'm thinking about completely rebuilding my solidoodle 3 with all linear rails and a corexy or H-bot belt system to reduce the moving weight. I've searched on here but haven't come across any similar mods to what I am planning, but if you know of an older thread that would be helpful please speak up. After looking at basically every printer on the market I've determined that none of them really meet my requirements. The things I am looking for are high precision, high temperatures (PC, ultem), and large build volume. I'd love to have more than 200x200mm, but I'll probably settle for that or just a bit more than that if I can squeeze it into the SD3 frame. The frame is really the only thing I like about my SD3, it's never printed well and is really worn out. The bed has a lot of up and down slop and side to side. I've done all the usual mods and I'm still not satisfied with it. I thought about keeping the guide rods and going to linear bearings, or even upgrading to larger guide rods, but rails just seem like the way to go to me. I'm also toying with the idea of extending the case downward and putting in a longer Z screw, but most of the large things I want to print really need the layers running the other way (I mostly print mechanical parts). And another thought was to just build a whole new case, but upgrading the SD3 is going to be a lot more cost effective.
http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=9988&download=0
This is what I've got so far, using all 15mm rails. The Y axis rails will bolt up under the lip of the case with just enough clearance for the bearing truck to not rub the case. I'll print (or mill from aluminum) an adapter plate that will let me bolt a 20mm (18mm inside) carbon fiber square channel between the Y rails. Then the X rail will bolt to the carbon fiber square channel, and the 2 Z rails will bolt to the case wall behind where the rods used to be.
I've never seen carbon fiber used before in 3d printers, but my reasoning here is to keep the moving weight as light as possible. I've used these types of carbon fiber square channels in drones before and they are extremely stiff and weigh next to nothing. Is there any reason they are not used in printers? Or am I just overestimating the benefits?
I haven't modeled the Z carriage yet, but something similar to the stock solidoodle with a flat back plate would do nicely for bolting to those bearing trucks. I would just re-use the stock Z carriage, except that I'm pretty sure that's where most of my problems came from. The rivets loosened up a while ago so I drilled and tapped them for 10-32 screws, but even those back out time after time no matter how much loctite I use. I may just weld the pieces together and be done with it.
I've never built a printer before but I have a lot of experience building other stuff. If anybody sees any problems with this plan please let me know, any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

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2 (edited by Tin Falcon 2016-06-29 10:29:31)

Re: SD3 total conversion

I to have pondered such things.
IMHO If you wand a bigger printer
And guide rails ......
Check out the Folger tech  FT 5 kit
12 x12 build area

https://folgertech.com/collections/3d-p … rinter-kit
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0586/8617/products/Folger-Web-1_original_large.jpg?v=1463494619
$499

I have built there prusa  2020 kit  and Heartless here is in the process of building the FT5.
Itis a new kit  so still a few bugs likely but more support than a scratch build.

If you really dislike the SD# that much and have not torn it apart I expect you should be able to get  $150 - $200 by selling it  but I have not been watching the prices.

Soliddoodle 4 stock w glass bed------Folger Tech Prusa 2020 upgraded to and titan /aero extruder mirror bed
FT5 with titan/ E3D Aero------MP mini select w glass bed
MP Utimate maker pro-W bondtech extruder
Marlin/Repetier Host/ Slic3r and Cura

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Re: SD3 total conversion

for price to size ration, the FT5 cant be beat. And yes, there are a few bugs to be worked out but there is a facebook group dedicated to the Folgertech products (if you join, there is also an 11% discount code you can use) and plenty of people willing to help with any issues.

In the wiring stages of mine right now, and taking my time with it. Hope to have it up and running this weekend.

for a size comparison - the basic frame next to my SD4s... same basic machine as your SD3, just has sides.

http://soliforum.com/i/?JjAzY2f.jpg

The FT5 uses linear rails for X & Y, and dual lead screws, with 4 smooth rods for Z.

SD4 #1 & #2 - Lawsy carriages, E3D v6, Rumba controller board, mirror bed plate, X motor fan, upgraded PSU & Mica bed heater
SD4 #3 - in the works ~ Folgertech FT-5, rev 1
Printit Industries Beta Tester - Horizon H1

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Re: SD3 total conversion

Well I'm sold. $499 and an 11% discount is probably less than I would have spent on my upgrade. Looks like it will be easy to enclose also for ABS or some of the other exotics I'm playing with that shrink like ABS. I'll probably just put some linear bearings in the SD3 and keep it for a backup printer. I'm still going to work on this design for fun though, I think that carbon fiber beam with a bowden extruder has potential to be the lightest carriage ever. Even with a direct drive it would still be lighter than most, especially with a light extruder like the E3d titan.

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here is a link to the facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Folgert … =bookmarks

the discount code is in the pinned post at the top.

I have kind of stalled out on my build at the moment - work has been crazy and my hands hurt by the end of the day - makes fiddly wiring work not so much fun. =P

SD4 #1 & #2 - Lawsy carriages, E3D v6, Rumba controller board, mirror bed plate, X motor fan, upgraded PSU & Mica bed heater
SD4 #3 - in the works ~ Folgertech FT-5, rev 1
Printit Industries Beta Tester - Horizon H1