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Topic: New ATLAS 3D Calibration Video

A new video has been created showing how to calibrate ATLAS 3D.


http://www.murobo.com/start.html#calibration

- Uriah

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this is for the acrylic case type

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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it also does not tell to face calibration item to rear and it is upside down from how manual tells to place it with pointed tips up

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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n2ri wrote:

this is for the acrylic case type

The process is the same for both versions

n2ri wrote:

it also does not tell to face calibration item to rear and it is upside down from how manual tells to place it with pointed tips up

Did you notice this calibration item is different than the printable one?  The are no pointy tips on this.

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

5 (edited by n2ri 2016-03-16 05:31:36)

Re: New ATLAS 3D Calibration Video

pirvan wrote:
n2ri wrote:

this is for the acrylic case type

The process is the same for both versions

n2ri wrote:

it also does not tell to face calibration item to rear and it is upside down from how manual tells to place it with pointed tips up

Did you notice this calibration item is different than the printable one?  The are no pointy tips on this.


the process is very different between the 2 types of cases. one you cant move/adjust lasers/camera like the other for starters. also things are not mounted in same place even the Pi. so this video dont show how to adjust half the things on the DIY printed case. just like assembly videos had to be different due to differences.

cant you see that?

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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n2ri wrote:
pirvan wrote:
n2ri wrote:

this is for the acrylic case type

The process is the same for both versions

n2ri wrote:

it also does not tell to face calibration item to rear and it is upside down from how manual tells to place it with pointed tips up

Did you notice this calibration item is different than the printable one?  The are no pointy tips on this.


the process is very different between the 2 types of cases. one you cant move/adjust lasers/camera like the other for starters. also things are not mounted in same place even the Pi. so this video dont show how to adjust half the things on the DIY printed case. just like assembly videos had to be different due to differences.

cant you see that?

oops... nevermind... I forgot who I was arguing with, my mistake.  YOU WIN !!

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

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@Pirvan

WHY do you always have to be Soooo hateful towards my posts lately?? stop acting so juvenile towards your elders.

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Not hateful.

Just trying to point out the error of your [thinking] ways.  Unfortunately, you're so one track minded that you don't see it, and keep going on, and on [down the wrong track]. 

So sometimes if fall back on sarcasm.  My fault.

"stop acting so juvenile towards your elders."

My elders?  I don't know about that...

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

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why is this wrong thinking?? there are 2 dif assembly videos for the differences in the cases. so why not 2 different calibration videos for the differences?

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Here is the progression of our conversation:

n2ri:  this is for the acrylic case type

                          Pirvan:       The process is the same for both versions

n2ri:  it also does not tell to face calibration item to rear and it is upside down from how manual tells to place it with pointed tips up

                          Pirvan:       Did you notice this calibration item is different than the printable one?  The are no pointy tips on this.

Then, rather than answer the question, you deflected the conversation to the differences between the cases.

I for one would assume that if you built the case yourself, you would understand how it works, and what needs to move in order to adjust things.  The video is there to introduce you to the concept of calibration.  As long as you understand how the lasers are supposed to be lined up, it doesn't really matter what screw must be turned or tightened.

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

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but it dont even cover some parts like camera alignment etc which is fixed on acrylic case but def not on DIY case as to orientation to lasers, height from turntable etc. its like saying the new VW Beetle maint manual is just like the air cooled version of the 70s. the engines and posisions are all dif. the limited instructions in manual dont deal with it either and end b4 complete and ready to scan, as does the DIY assm video. and none deal with trouble shooting the many issues posted on here lately that most buyers are having.

so NO the process is not the same nor complete. and yes I did notice the dif calb item thats just yet another missing link in the DIY info and why I brought it up.

besides your contradicting all of this (Obvious good points I bring up) what also gets me is why the OP has yet to chime in!
whats up with that?

my whole point has been that this video is made for only 1 of 2 dif versions of cases. seems your the only one that dont understand that.
scan recent topics in this section if you dont think most buyers are still confused how to complete a usable scanner they can get good scans with. if the only market intended to buy and use these was the small percentage of tech geeks that dont need to be instructed in this then the market is being flooded with sales to un-qualified and un-intended owners that will never be able to use them. just wasting their money. very bad for future sales.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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n2ri wrote:

but it dont even cover some parts like camera alignment etc which is fixed on acrylic case but def not on DIY case as to orientation to lasers, height from turntable etc.

I think you need to pay more attention to the video, and it should also help to look at the assembly video for the acrylic case.  You will find that the camera is fully adjustable, not fixed at all.  It floats on spring loaded screws and is adjustable for both pan and tilt.
Look at the video starting at 1:06 to about 1:30.  It describes the camera adjustment.

n2ri wrote:

...its like saying the new VW Beetle maint manual is just like the air cooled version of the 70s. the engines and posisions are all dif.

Since you brought up this analogy, I am old enough to remember the Chilton's repair manuals.  They didn't have a section dedicated to each model, rather most of the common repairs were described once, and the differences were annotated as needed.

n2ri wrote:

... if the only market intended to buy and use these was the small percentage of tech geeks that dont need to be instructed in this then the market is being flooded with sales to un-qualified and un-intended owners that will never be able to use them. just wasting their money. very bad for future sales.

DYI projects assume a modicum of experience and tech savvy, as well as the ability resolve some problems on your own. 

They are not for people that prefer to have everything handed to them on a silver platter. 

Just out of curiosity, what did you expect to get when you got your 3D printer?  Did you think it would be some type of plug & play device like your inkjet printer??

What did you expect to get when you bought this scanner?  something on the same lines? 

If you were looking for a scanner that would just give you some perfect 3D model, you obviously didn't do your homework.  3D scanning is far from perfect, and the scanners that give you semi-professional or professional results costs thousands of dollars.  Even then, you're still expected to do some post scan manipulations (joining, merging, cleaning, etc).

For your needs I would consider getting a NextEngine scanner.  It's the only scanner I know of that can pick up small details like the ones you want, and automate most of the work.  Be prepared to spend about $4-5K, and still fight issues with calibration and lighting.

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

13 (edited by n2ri 2016-03-21 04:58:48)

Re: New ATLAS 3D Calibration Video

'Since you brought up this analogy, I am old enough to remember the Chilton's repair manuals.  They didn't have a section dedicated to each model, rather most of the common repairs were described once, and the differences were annotated as needed.'

then you dont remember those manuals very good. there are different manuals for each make and model change most only cover a couple years that where same design. and a note in video about differences would also be nice as you stated of Chilton. but different body styles have different manuals no matter car or scanner.

as for the rest of your rebuttle... I dont see your point taking up for a video that dont cover both types sold. REALLY? WHY?

who buys a product and dont expect the maker to furnish support for it? and as for expectations. YES most people that saw the Hipe about how its results where with minimal tweaking same as the Makerbot one. expected similar results when finished assembling it, and have tech support and warranty to help reach that goal. so again I have to ask WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM HERE? did you invest over 50% stock in this thing or what. if you bought something dont you expect some kind of assistance from manufacturer if you have problems getting it to do as it was sold to perform? if your not the Engineer that designed, Built and sold it? good grief man! the printing and assemling of the enclosure is the only DIY part of this, its not sold as a project. just a kit. big differance. as for my 3D printer I did not buy a kit because like most I never designed or built one or any part of in my life and it came with warrenty, support etc. Solidoodle did not start out the same way they finished even if their Techs couldnt fix everything. then there is this site which is where I come for more 'Help' or at least used to be able to get that instead of all this nit picking and bashing just for trying to get some.

I can go to my wife for that...

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14 (edited by pirvan 2016-03-21 14:00:30)

Re: New ATLAS 3D Calibration Video

n2ri wrote:

then you dont remember those manuals very good. there are different manuals for each make and model change most only cover a couple years that where same design. and a note in video about differences would also be nice as you stated of Chilton. but different body styles have different manuals no matter car or scanner.

Really???  That's how you remember it ??

How about this one?

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=9765

Or this one?

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=9764

Or this one?

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=9766

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Hey you two, don't make me turn this car around wink

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wardjr wrote:

Hey you two, don't make me turn this car around wink

Do I hear Don Henley in there?

              "Turn this thing around
               I will not go quietly
               I will not lie down
               I will not go quietly"

big_smile  big_smile  big_smile

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AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
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Hi Privan, i'm trying to fix Freelss 3D scanner , but im not still fix  it right now. My problem just has motor "steps per revolutions" my stepper motor like a earthquake, when stepper motor works all system is vibrating. i tried a lots of system to solve it but i couldn't.

Buddy pls help me