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Re: Question about the Solidoodle company

We're proud to wear the name as a badge of honor, that we made it through all the suffering.

Call us ...  Suffredoodlettes  lol

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

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pirvan wrote:

We're proud to wear the name as a badge of honor, that we made it through all the suffering.

Call us ...  Suffredoodlettes  lol

Thanks Pirvan. Is so amazing to find out so many customers all around the web having bad experiences with this company. At the beginning I thought I was the only one. Unbelievable they are letting their brand deteriorate day by day without doing anything about that.

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vivi wrote:

I'm actually surprised how Soliforum hasn't changed it's name to not be associated with a shitty company anymore as it is a general 3d printer forum and the largest as far as I know.

lel, then no one could find us and there would be a lot more Solidoodles in the trash wink

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the only thing ever I liked about the SD4 was it had the hole pre punched in rear for exhaust fan like all models should have had. the best they built IMHO was SD2 and SD3 except SD3 should have had stronger rods and bild plate for the larger surface area used. solidoodle never learned how to make a user friendly case nor did they use great electric parts only suficiant for the job at lowest cost. but still easy to mod/upgrade later when you got more $$$ and learned how to use a 3D printer and what specs you needed for your applications.

I am happy with my SD2 wish I could find an SD3 to make a Workbench apprentice frankinprinter with better parts at half the cost and dont worry about Sam and Dudes anymore. lol

this forum does better anyways thats why SD wont come play with us anymore Sam picked up his marbles and went home years ago seems. then went China on us. thats how looser CEOs have done for over 25 years now b4 disappearing off the planet. sad but common.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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I'll say this about my experience with Solidoodle.  It was one of the few printers I looked at and one of only a handful I could afford at the time.  It was "the best bang for the buck" for a fully assembled printer 2-3 years ago.

I bought it, and sure enough I had problems with it (power supply) straight out of the box, and quickly found out that I'm pretty much on my own.  But, like most of us here, found that with a little perseverance, elbow grease and the help of this forum, I could make it work, and then I improved on it, and got better, learned more and had fun in the process.

I think that because we did come across all these problems and obstacles we're better for it, we learned more than those guys that bought their fine, expensive and sleek MakerBot or Ultimaker or 3D Systems machines that worked straight out of the box (most of the time wink ). 

I'd like to think that we're more inventive, and capable and possibly more dynamic than those "other" guys, by necessity.  How many MakerBot or Ultimaker users do you think take their precious printers apart to improve them?  Not many I would venture.

I for one do not regret for a moment having plunked my money on the Solidoodle.  Yes, the company may be floundering, but they did one good thing, they got our feet wet on this cool hobby.

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

31 (edited by vivi 2015-10-14 00:57:14)

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jagowilson wrote:

then no one could find us

Many 3d printer communities have separate sections for 3d printer specific discussions, including Solidoodle. Something like that works.


Maybe for some people, but I sure as heck have no use for the kind of knowledge I got from trying to fix a broken product, especially since it was trial and error which is in my opinion the slowest and most inefficient way to learn anything. Many Ultimaker or makerbot users might not know how to calibrate their stepper drivers or know what PID is, but the thing is they'll probably never need to, so learning it will be just a waste of time. It's all about time vs money. And BTW most of the things we spent time on wasn't even "knowledge". Figuring out after hours of testing that something isn't properly glued or not sturdy enough or is of poor tolerance only teaches you that you bought a shitty product.
I know it feels better to think that you got at least something out of all this, but I honestly think some people exaggerate it.
If anyone wants to learn basic electronics and mechanics they can build a 3d printer kit, not patch up a broken one.
I'll shut up now.

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Re: Question about the Solidoodle company

vivi wrote:
jagowilson wrote:

then no one could find us

Many 3d printer communities have separate sections for 3d printer specific discussions, including Solidoodle. Something like that works.


Maybe for some people, but I sure as heck have no use for the kind of knowledge I got from trying to fix a broken product, especially since it was trial and error which is in my opinion the slowest and most inefficient way to learn anything. Many Ultimaker or makerbot users might not know how to calibrate their stepper drivers or know what PID is, but the thing is they'll probably never need to, so learning it will be just a waste of time. And BTW most of the things we spent time on wasn't even "knowledge". Figuring out after hours of testing that something isn't properly glued or not sturdy enough or is of poor tolerance only teaches you that you bought a shitty product.
I know it feels better to think that you got at least something out of all this, but I honestly think some people exaggerate it.
If anyone wants to learn basic electronics and mechanics from a 3d printer they can get a Prusa kit instead of a broken printer.
I'll shut up now.


So the fact that Makerbot knowingly sold hundreds of printers with defective extruders then got caught in class action over it means they are a better company just because they charge almost 5 times the market value of standard 3d printer tech? If you take a Makerbot and strip off all the pretty molding it is just a generic printer with generic parts (aside from their "special" extruder) and will have the same issues as any other. My company has one it has been broken 6 times in the course of 6 months that they have had. Broken to the point it will not print and they had to get parts from MB for it.. The extruder alone was replaced 6 times. Yes it was one of those.

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

33 (edited by vivi 2015-10-14 01:06:41)

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Fair enough. Ignore I also mentioned Makerbot. Haven't had experienced with them for a long time. Everything else I said still stands.

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jagowilson wrote:
vivi wrote:

I'm actually surprised how Soliforum hasn't changed it's name to not be associated with a shitty company anymore as it is a general 3d printer forum and the largest as far as I know.

lel, then no one could find us and there would be a lot more Solidoodles in the trash wink

My SD4 is pretty much in the trash as SD will NOT return my emails nor phone messages.
I have purchased a Geetech Me Creator that is ten times the printer and customer service in China is EXCELLENT. All emails promptly returned, and the even paint to fix a minor issue I had.

Awesome product!

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As far as support complaints go, there are no need for SD in that regard. Our (Soliforum) community is superior to any service Solidoodle could ever offer. How many times have you had phone calls/emails with another user until 10pm only to have the conversation end , problem corrected, with them saying they are halfway around the world about to get ready for work? How many times have you had someone take their own personal upgrades for next to nothing...if nothing at all? How many times have you stayed up until 1am helping someone on the opposite coast with their new machine?

All of these happen in our community every day. And we don't get paid for it like SD employees do, and we are more knowledgeable than the ones who actually make these units. This is by no means a bash on SD as a company...but a rave review of this here site! MB support would tell you to piss up a rope if you called on their lunch breaks. Not us. And we at least have a working knowledge of other makes/models. So in my book, the support comments are out the window.

There are other ways for people to find us. How else do Prusa/MB/Airwolf users find us? Through searching. We are not strictly dedicated to SD printers. And while Brad *could* buy up domain names for xxxxprinter.com or xxxxsupport.edu, keep in mind he does not ask for user fees...he pays out of pocket. The "3D printing community" is the hook if you ask me.

Sorry for the length and a hint of rambling. smile

Printit Mason and Printit Horizon printers
Multiple SD2s- Bulldog XL, E3D v5/v6/Lite6, Volcano, Hobb Goblin, Titan, .9 motor, Lawsy carriages, direct Y drive, fishing line...the list goes on
Filawinder and Filastruder #1870.....worth every penny!

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Azerate - well said (even if there was a hint of rambling wink )

The Soliforum community is absolutely outstanding when it comes to troubleshooting, helping new users get up and printing, and helping find/obtain parts that may be needed - regardless of the exact brand/model of printer in question.

After several months of researching, the other half purchased our first Solidoodle printer - used - an SD4 model. We found this forum around the same time and it has been a invaluable resource in making that 1st used printer a reliable, accurate machine.

Everything from how to calibrate properly, to upgrading the carriages to linear bearings, to replacing the failed Printrboard controller, fixing a failed USB chip on the new controller board (a special thanks to wardjr for that one!), and upgrading the hotend. If it had not been for this community, we probably would have had a much harder time getting, and keeping, this printer running.

We now have 2 of the SD4s, a Folgertech Prusa i3, and added a Folgertech Kossel to the mix recently. This community has helped get all of them up to speed and printing well, even tho I still have some tweaking to do with the kossel - it is minor stuff at this point. We also have a cheap Chinese kossel kit that I am fairly confident I can get up and running eventually, with help from knowledge gleaned from the members here.

Yes, there are other forums out there, but, IMHO, none quite as helpful, or as active, as this one is.

and now I am rambling... lol big_smile

Would I recommend a Solidoodle printer to someone? Not a new one, no. Used - yes, and also suggest they join this forum for the wealth of knowledge it can provide.

SD4 #1 & #2 - Lawsy carriages, E3D v6, Rumba controller board, mirror bed plate, X motor fan, upgraded PSU & Mica bed heater
SD4 #3 - in the works ~ Folgertech FT-5, rev 1
Printit Industries Beta Tester - Horizon H1

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n2ri wrote:

the best they built IMHO was SD2

Agree.

Does this mean my SD2 is appreciating in value?

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

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DePartedPrinter wrote:
n2ri wrote:

the best they built IMHO was SD2

Agree.

Does this mean my SD2 is appreciating in value?

Actually kind of seems to be that way for the SD2,3& maybe 4.  Although the appreciation probably is less on the monetary end of things and more in the form of user appreciation wink

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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the SD2 is like the Citroen 2V (European car made for decades with same spartan design) of 3D printers. cant keep it down and always a way to mod it to taste with a nice base to build on and low cost/budget able to achieve quality prints exceeding most including the $10k models. only SLA powder/resin can surpass but at a steep cost and more mess to deal with besides support material post print may even need a large lab for that type printer which BTW start as low as $30k US and sky is the limit (or your credit line).

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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DePartedPrinter wrote:
n2ri wrote:

the best they built IMHO was SD2

Agree.

Does this mean my SD2 is appreciating in value?

I've got an original stock SD2 I am willing to sell for...

SD2 - Stock - Enclosure - Heated Bed - Glass Plate - Auto Fire Extinguisher
Ord Bot Hadron - RAMPS 1.4 - Bulldog XL - E3D v6 - 10" x 10" PCB Heated Build w/SSR - Glass Plate
Thanks for All of Your Help!

41 (edited by jagowilson 2015-10-15 17:41:29)

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KWICK wrote:
jagowilson wrote:
vivi wrote:

I'm actually surprised how Soliforum hasn't changed it's name to not be associated with a shitty company anymore as it is a general 3d printer forum and the largest as far as I know.

lel, then no one could find us and there would be a lot more Solidoodles in the trash wink

My SD4 is pretty much in the trash as SD will NOT return my emails nor phone messages.
I have purchased a Geetech Me Creator that is ten times the printer and customer service in China is EXCELLENT. All emails promptly returned, and the even paint to fix a minor issue I had.

Awesome product!

If you aren't using your SD4 you should consider putting it up for sale, because there are plenty of people who would want one but can't get one because the wait times are ridiculous. It's a solid printer with the right modifications.

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jagowilson wrote:
KWICK wrote:
jagowilson wrote:

lel, then no one could find us and there would be a lot more Solidoodles in the trash wink

My SD4 is pretty much in the trash as SD will NOT return my emails nor phone messages.
I have purchased a Geetech Me Creator that is ten times the printer and customer service in China is EXCELLENT. All emails promptly returned, and the even paint to fix a minor issue I had.

Awesome product!

If you aren't using your SD4 you should put it up for sale, because there are plenty of people who would want one but can't get one because the wait times are ridiculous. It's a solid printer with the right modifications.

My SD4 motherboard is junk. I have on from China that I need to install and download the firmware on.
Truthfully, I'll only be using the SD4 if I need to print something larger the 6x6x6 because the Me Creator kicks it's butt in quality.

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if that doesn't work out for you shoot me a PM, I have a spare SD4 moherboard I'll part with for not too much.

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jagowilson wrote:

if that doesn't work out for you shoot me a PM, I have a spare SD4 moherboard I'll part with for not too much.

PM coming...

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KWICK wrote:
jagowilson wrote:

if that doesn't work out for you shoot me a PM, I have a spare SD4 moherboard I'll part with for not too much.

PM coming...

And if that doesn't work, then list it for sale.  I might want it and I'm comfortable modding it and don't care about the motherboard.

SD4 w/ RUMBA, E3D Volcano, all bearings, glass bed

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and if all the other deals fall through, let me know. I would take it off your hands - working or not. smile

SD4 #1 & #2 - Lawsy carriages, E3D v6, Rumba controller board, mirror bed plate, X motor fan, upgraded PSU & Mica bed heater
SD4 #3 - in the works ~ Folgertech FT-5, rev 1
Printit Industries Beta Tester - Horizon H1

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Former Solidoodle employee here, saw this thread and felt compelled to let everyone know what's going on - at least as far as I know, since Solidoodle doesn't say anything unless it's good news. You guys have pretty much figured it out though, Solidoodle is out of cash.

It started with the Press, which without getting into too much detail, was/is a complete disaster. Production tapped out most of our funds and the port delays meant that we weren't able to re-coup those costs as quickly as we needed. Plus, the Press pre-order campaign meant that we were pretty much shipping the printers at a net loss.

Around this time they started sporadically missing payroll here and there, but there was talk about bringing in investors so I figured we would tough it out until the round closed and once we had some operating capital we'd be able to recover. Well we closed the round, hooray! I see another poster did some digging and noticed that we refiled as a C-corp, this was part of finalizing the investment.

Turns out most of the funding was used to pay off debts and it wasn't long before the prospect of missing payroll again became a reality. Last month they called a company meeting and laid off pretty much everyone (myself included) except for those with shares and the accounting department (who were put on part-time).

Obviously there's a whole lot more to the story but the bottom line is that things don't look good. If you have an unfulfilled order, unfortunately, I wouldn't get my hopes up.  If you're looking for a refund, I would start exploring other avenues to recoup (bank, credit card, etc) because there isn't any money there, and even if there was, refunds are not very high up on the list of priorities. Spare part orders are a craps shoot depending on the part.

So that's that. I wish I came here bearing better tidings but that's the truth. I love the community here at Soliforum and it was frustrating that we weren't allowed to share with you all the realities of the situation, so I figured it was the least I could do.

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Thanks for the update. Over my years in biz I have had the pleasure of dealing with about a dozen companies with hard headed owners the made a friggin' GREAT product and had no idea how to market and distribute it.

I have bicycle, mountain bike gear, motorcycle leathers, m/c roadracing supplies, Titanium headers etc collections of things I love but are no longer in biz, I was very sad when each closed their doors.

...anyway, my GeeeTech Me Creator has taken over my printing chores, I will be assembling and marketing a small parts kit to make it operate AWESOME instead of just "good".  The SD2 clone is here to take up the difference.

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Thank you very much for the information. I am very sorry to hear about what happened to you. This is more information about the company than I have heard in the last year. Deeply appreciated.

Solinonymous wrote:

Former Solidoodle employee here, saw this thread and felt compelled to let everyone know what's going on - at least as far as I know, since Solidoodle doesn't say anything unless it's good news. You guys have pretty much figured it out though, Solidoodle is out of cash.

It started with the Press, which without getting into too much detail, was/is a complete disaster. Production tapped out most of our funds and the port delays meant that we weren't able to re-coup those costs as quickly as we needed. Plus, the Press pre-order campaign meant that we were pretty much shipping the printers at a net loss.

Around this time they started sporadically missing payroll here and there, but there was talk about bringing in investors so I figured we would tough it out until the round closed and once we had some operating capital we'd be able to recover. Well we closed the round, hooray! I see another poster did some digging and noticed that we refiled as a C-corp, this was part of finalizing the investment.

Turns out most of the funding was used to pay off debts and it wasn't long before the prospect of missing payroll again became a reality. Last month they called a company meeting and laid off pretty much everyone (myself included) except for those with shares and the accounting department (who were put on part-time).

Obviously there's a whole lot more to the story but the bottom line is that things don't look good. If you have an unfulfilled order, unfortunately, I wouldn't get my hopes up.  If you're looking for a refund, I would start exploring other avenues to recoup (bank, credit card, etc) because there isn't any money there, and even if there was, refunds are not very high up on the list of priorities. Spare part orders are a craps shoot depending on the part.

So that's that. I wish I came here bearing better tidings but that's the truth. I love the community here at Soliforum and it was frustrating that we weren't allowed to share with you all the realities of the situation, so I figured it was the least I could do.

Solidoodle 4-Mostly stock running off headless Raspberry Pi with Octoprint

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Thanks for sticking your neck out on this subject.  Hopefully they will reorganize and attract some outside investors in an effort to fight for what was once a great company with a great product.  Until then we are here to continue to provide the support that SD has failed to provide for years.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions