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210 as far as i know, which was what it was printing well with xyzware. I have been messing around with it and really getting no where, its slightly less ugly, but not by much.
The red one is with stock xyzware, the black with simplify3d, both same brand filament, these are only 20mm tall btw.
On S3D what speed are you printing at? The speeds in XYZ by default are slower than S3D.
its at 1800 default, 2100 x/y, 2400 z
its at 1800 default, 2100 x/y, 2400 z
If we are on the same page about print speed, and not non-print speed then you are printing at 30mm per second on average in SD3. You need to slow down to 20 or less for a part this small. You said it is 20mm tall so that means the body would be about 10mm in diameter. The part is staying to hot because SD3 is putting down layers too fast and deforming the still hot previous layer.
so does the stock software compensate for this when making small parts or does it just keep the feed rate down all of the time? Do you know what the stock feedrate is?
so does the stock software compensate for this when making small parts or does it just keep the feed rate down all of the time? Do you know what the stock feedrate is?
It just prints slower all the time. There is very little intelligence in XYZware. As for speed, it is not shown but based on experience I would say low 20's..
I am (was) still having problems with the reboot during upload when using Simplify3D. My observation is that for complicated files and/or large things there is a greater probability that the system will crash before the upload is complete. The \r\n business helped a little bit but I still got crashes on large files. For smaller, low-resolution (that is, fast) files the regular S3D seems to work ok.
For larger files, here is what I have to do...
1) Bring the object into the S3D program.
2) Save the gcode to an SD card or other mass storage device.
3) Modify the gcode by deleting all of the comment lines at the beginning that are delineated by a ";"
4) Add a new Header...
; filename = composition.3w
; machine = daVinciF10
; material = abs
; layer_height = 0.3
; total_layers = 233
; total_filament = 4930.64
; extruder = 1
G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
;M104 S200 ; set temperature
;M109 S200 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 F1800.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0
and SAVE.
There may be a couple lines of gcode that are not necessary. I was just happy to have things work and I didn't check all the code.
This file will no longer be able to print using S3D but you can use XYZWare.
Just load the modified gcode file into the XYZWare wireframe and print like you did when you first got your printer.
For some strange reason, XYZWare will read long complicated files without crashing. I have printed about 5 complicated items without a crash (knock on wood). Keeping my fingers crossed.
Now all I have to worry about is the other hundreds of things that can go wrong.
I am (was) still having problems with the reboot during upload when using Simplify3D. My observation is that for complicated files and/or large things there is a greater probability that the system will crash before the upload is complete. The \r\n business helped a little bit but I still got crashes on large files. For smaller, low-resolution (that is, fast) files the regular S3D seems to work ok.
For larger files, here is what I have to do...
1) Bring the object into the S3D program.
2) Save the gcode to an SD card or other mass storage device.
3) Modify the gcode by deleting all of the comment lines at the beginning that are delineated by a ";"
4) Add a new Header...; filename = composition.3w
; machine = daVinciF10
; material = abs
; layer_height = 0.3
; total_layers = 233
; total_filament = 4930.64
; extruder = 1
G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
;M104 S200 ; set temperature
;M109 S200 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 F1800.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0and SAVE.
There may be a couple lines of gcode that are not necessary. I was just happy to have things work and I didn't check all the code.
This file will no longer be able to print using S3D but you can use XYZWare.
Just load the modified gcode file into the XYZWare wireframe and print like you did when you first got your printer.For some strange reason, XYZWare will read long complicated files without crashing. I have printed about 5 complicated items without a crash (knock on wood). Keeping my fingers crossed.
Now all I have to worry about is the other hundreds of things that can go wrong.
Have you tried adding that header to the start gcode in S3D? Just make sure nothing else is in there.
tried slowing it down to below 20, same results, i dont know what the problem is.
Are you on a newer firmware? I recall and older post where people where having similar issues and it was concluded that maybe XYZ is bugging things to try to keep users in their software. I have a 1.0 but have long since gutted the stock board and installed a RAMPS so I can use any slicer snd host.
Are you printing PLA or ABS?
tried slowing it down to below 20, same results, i dont know what the problem is.
I'm printing pla, but yes I am also on the latest firmware as I unfortunately auto updated out of the box. I wonder if they have messed with its abilities to use third party software.
I'm printing pla, but yes I am also on the latest firmware as I unfortunately auto updated out of the box. I wonder if they have messed with its abilities to use third party software.
You do know that a 1.0 which I assume you use based on your header cannot print with PLA. They say it can but to do so requires you to buy the newer head from their store for 100 bucks or modify the existing one as some have done.
If you're printing PLA 210 could be too high. 210 is what the xyz abs prints at.
If you're printing PLA 210 could be too high. 210 is what the xyz abs prints at.
XYZ's PLA is the only stuff I have seen that works at under 200. Most PLA I have ever used was between 200 and 210. Maybe 210 is too hot for black though since it will suck up more heat.
batmaster wrote:I'm printing pla, but yes I am also on the latest firmware as I unfortunately auto updated out of the box. I wonder if they have messed with its abilities to use third party software.
You do know that a 1.0 which I assume you use based on your header cannot print with PLA. They say it can but to do so requires you to buy the newer head from their store for 100 bucks or modify the existing one as some have done.
I'm printing pla everyday. Longest print is only like 3.5 hours but it's working fine thus far. I have modified mine with a shroud, a heatsink I made and an additional fan with a duct mounted on the carriage.
The reason I picked 210 was that was what the box the pla came in said, but I did try a few temperatures higher and lower with simplify and all it did was cause more problems.
Just for fun I printed a filament guide with simplify which I cancelled halfway through because it looked like a mess. Went into xyzware and printed out and it came out great. I don't know what the problem is but I guess I will just stick to xyzware, has crap all for options but it has worked fine for me.
OK, here is my solution (actually a work-around) to the re-boot problem when using Simplify 3D. I have tested it about 50 times and have not had it reboot once. The problem, as several users have mentioned, is that when using S3D on large complicated files, the system may or may not reboot during the upload process. The larger the file, the more likely it is to reboot. When tracking the upload process, I find that it does not crash at the same point in the file. Sometimes it is soon, sometimes it is later. I am not sure what is going on.
Also, noteworthy, is that XYZware never (knock on wood) crashes during the upload. My solution is to generate the *.gcocde in S3D and then print it with XYZware. If you try to use the straight S3D file, XYZware will give you a printer mismatch error. The way around this is to add a HEADER to the *.gcode file that will set XYZware on the right track. The HEADER that I use is as follows...
; filename = composition.3w
; machine = daVinciF10
; extruder = 1
G21 ; set units to millimeters
You can use a text editor to add these four lines at the top of the S3D gcode, then save it, load it into your XYZware and print your object.
I have a 1.1.J DaVinci XYZ printer and I have avoided uploading any recent upgrades from DaVinci. I do believe they are trying to sabotage any 3rd-party contributions.
Some of you that are having trouble with rebooting on large files, try this work-around, and let us know how it works.
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