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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/rlFQMH0.jpg" alt="https://i.imgur.com/rlFQMH0.jpg" /></span></p><p>Just finished a print and had no squishing on top <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>only thing I noticed was after about 75 layers for some reason the print shifted about .5mm along the X-axis.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 09:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I really have no way to measure prints yet. I will be picking up a caliper tomorrow.<br />No I haven&#039;t done many calibrations except the z axis. Kinda scared I&#039;ll really mess something up.</p><p>Would it be possible for someone to configure this code to make it make sense to the printer.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
G28 ; home all axes
G28 X0 Y0; home x and y axes
G91
G1 Z10 F5000; move bed down
G90; use absolute coordinates
G1 X0 Y0 F5000; move to front
@pause
G29; probe bed
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance
M190 S75 ; wait for bed temperature to be reached
M104 S190 T1 ; set temperature
G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle</code></pre></div><p>Or is this correct going to test it now: Worked but I think I got some extra Codes that are un-needed (Worked/Not Working)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DarthGizmo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another thought...have you done the essential calibrations such as Extruder steps/mm and single walled cube to check extrusion width?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/86355/#p86355</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Not that familiar with auto-leveling, sorry!</p><p>And I just realized in my post above that you really shouldn&#039;t need to use something &quot;longer than the nozzle&quot; versus your lowest nozzle...I just called back on what I did with my home-built machine before I installed the carriage <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>But, yeah...if your auto-leveling was being cancelled out by the G28 that explains a lot.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IronMan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yar this is good info and I will try it but no it is the extruder that is printing that is squishing into the print. I have found another thread that may be my answer. I was just pasting code into the gcode not really checking it. It happens that I was running a G28;home all axis after my auto lvl ran.</p><p>G21 ; set units to millimeters<br />M107<br />*<br />G28 X0 Y0; home x and y axes<br />G91<br />G1 Z10 F5000; move bed down<br />G90; use absolute coordinates<br />G1 X0 Y0 F5000; move to front<br />@pause<br />G29; probe bed<br />G92 E0; reset extrusion distance<br />*<br />M190 S75 ; wait for bed temperature to be reached<br />M104 S190 T1 ; set temperature<br />G28 ; home all axes<br />G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle</p><p>M109 S190 T1 ; wait for temperature to be reached<br />G90 ; use absolute coordinates<br />G92 E0<br />M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion<br />T1</p><p>between the *&#039;s is the code that I&#039;ve been pasting in and the place that I paste it. I&#039;m not that great with code but it seems only a few lines of the code I am pasting is necessary. Should I instead paste it between the G28 and the G1 Z5 F5000. Then i won&#039;t be over writing the G29 command with the G28.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DarthGizmo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/86348/#p86348</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>So mostly it is the non-extruding nozzle that is dragging across and squishing the top of your print?...Gonna go out on a limb here as I do not own an Apprentice, but I am building my own dual extruder mount…so here goes:</p><p>Although it is critical that both nozzles touch the bed at the same time, the bed must still be as parallel with the entire X movement as possible.&nbsp; Otherwise, even if both nozzles are parallel to the bed at, say the bed center, then once the carriage moves in the X axis, the gaps would increase or decrease.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Now, while the auto-leveling routine should compensate for this by adjusting the Z movement during the print, it may get slightly out of whack with respect to one nozzle or the other.</p><p>My advice would be to take something that is a bit longer than the distance between your X carriage rods and the bed while the nozzles are not touching it; then use that to get the bed as parallel to the rods in the X axis as possible using the wing nuts.</p><p>Then, bring the bed up to the lowest nozzle, and adjust both nozzles so they touch the bed equally.</p><p>Now adjust the bed in the Y AXIS ONLY to get that correct to the nozzles. </p><p>You would still need to adjust the Z stop (probe) to home Z properly as well and not crash the nozzles into the bed; but at that point, both nozzles should be parallel and equidistant to the bed as possible in all bed positions.</p><p>Again, I do not own an Apprentice, so take this advice with a grain of salt, but this is the route I would take to minimize any mechanical issues…</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IronMan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>on this print there was no lifting. the top of the ball was squished inward by the extruder i&#039;ve checked recheck and re recheck my z lvl and the extruders are indeed level to the bed. </p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/T6WW55R.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/T6WW55R.jpg" /></span></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/o0T6BzJ.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/o0T6BzJ.jpg" /></span></p><p>sorry bout the crappy imgs all i have right now is my vita to take pics.</p><p>Link to imgur: My slic3r settings <br /><a href="https://imgur.com/a/pguXG">https://imgur.com/a/pguXG</a></p><p>Thank you guys for the help it is really appreciated.<br />Wouldn&#039;t have gotten this far if it wasn&#039;t for yall.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DarthGizmo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/86342/#p86342</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DarthGizmo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well yar i put some on there and didn&#039;t really do much so i cleaned it off.</p><p>Editing as to not double post.</p><p>So i&#039;ve got it starting off good but now after about 15-20 layers the print head is now squishing into my print seems it starts and each layer it puts down is actually pulling it closer to the print.</p></blockquote></div><p>Are you getting lifting after 15-20 layers...if your nozzles are set evenly with respect to the bed, then neither one should dig into the print.&nbsp; Pics?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>well yar i put some on there and didn&#039;t really do much so i cleaned it off.</p><p>Editing as to not double post.</p><p>So i&#039;ve got it starting off good but now after about 15-20 layers the print head is now squishing into my print seems it starts and each layer it puts down is actually pulling it closer to the print.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DarthGizmo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/86325/#p86325</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know much but putting grease on your hotend is a bad idea.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (wardjr)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 04:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/86321/#p86321</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the reply i had actually just set it up in slic3r to just use the 2nd extruder. now i&#039;m having issues where my filament is sticking to my hotend dragging my print around also my yand x axis are vibrating really bad. i loosened the belts. but haven&#039;t had any luck getting it to stop gonna regrease everything up to night and so what happens. what would happen if i throw some grease on the outside of my hotend think that would help the filament sticking to it?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DarthGizmo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 04:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/86242/#p86242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If you swing the front fan up and out of the way you&#039;ll be able to get to a 1.5mm hex set screw that holds the hotend in place. Be sure everything is cooled down before doing this, of course.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (soliryan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/85343/#p85343</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Been messing around for a few days now and still the 2nd exturder is still scrapping my prints even when i have it completly level I do a Test Bed Print comes out looking good the try to print something and whack whack scrap scrap. this will be the down fall of my 3d printing if i can&#039;t get it in a few weeks. i tried printing a simple dragons head and the 2nd extruder snapped off 1 of the horns. wasted a ton of plastic doing nothing but failed prints.</p><p>tried leveling it with paper just barley touching each extuder on all four corners. I Have only 3 clips on my bed as thats what it came will would that be holding the other corner in the air? theres two up front and one centered in the back.</p><p>Anyway to just take take 2nd hotend off? just eliminate it altogether?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DarthGizmo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2015 08:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question: Anyone with Dual Extruders.]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/84525/#p84525</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Not at my machine, but I believe the Autotune sequence for the bed is:</p><p>M303 E-1 S90 C8</p><p>E-1 = Bed Heater<br />S90 = Target Temp<br />C8 = Number of cycles to run test</p><p>Make sure the bed is heated to near the temp required or the sequence will time out.&nbsp; Once you get the final PID numbers, you will then need to plug the final results back into the firmware.</p><p>BTW, PID autotune will not enable your bed to heat any more efficiently or faster, it just helps the system maintain better control over the targeted heat level.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IronMan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the reply DePartedPrinter. will try re-leveling the bed. Also if anyone has any info on the bed PID or why my bed will only heat to 96*c? I ran the PID auto tune for the Printhead but din&#039;t know the command for the bed itself.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DarthGizmo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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