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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Not Ready for Prime Time?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Or am I being overly grumpy because my machine broke and now I&#039;m down till some kind soul sends me new carriages?&nbsp; 8*)</p></blockquote></div><p>No worries Mr smith sometime we just need to rant.&nbsp; The time of year for Cabin fever and&nbsp; needing to vent some steam. </p><p>May be I am fortunate . I purchased a USED sd4 so no need to worry about a warantee. I have operated and built a couple cnc machines have a couple Associate degrees and like to tinker. I have a mechanical and electronics background.&nbsp; So 3d works for me. <br />3D printing has been in use by industry for 20-25 years or so.&nbsp; And there has been no problem taking the concept of a $20k machine&nbsp; and building a home consumer model for about $ 2k. But then you try to build one with a retail&nbsp; tag of $ 500 the fun begins.&nbsp; <br />As far as prints sticking I have never had a problem. I print with pla use a $3 piece of window glass and aquanet hair spray. <br />Tin</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Not Ready for Prime Time?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is this 3D Printing thing just not ready for Prime Time?&nbsp; Not picking on SD specifically, but every manufacturer, every product, every printed part just isn&#039;t out of the hobbyist stage yet.&nbsp; Every review details the promise and then the reality.&nbsp; 8x8 beds for printing ABS are a joke, and there are size limits to the stuff you can print even if everything&#039;s working perfectly and you&#039;ve spent months rebuilding your printer.&nbsp; If it&#039;s too small then the resolution of the machine gets in your way, if it&#039;s too big then there&#039;s shrinking and warping and cracking.</p><p>And the software, don&#039;t get me started!&nbsp; Read the instructions for firmware updates, they are daunting to computer geeks, much less someone who thinks they are buying something that&#039;ll print out of the box.&nbsp; I&#039;m afraid to upgrade my slicer, because it&#039;s not clear if I&#039;ll have to re-enter all the critical parameters, which (oh), no-one knows.</p><p>Tweak the temperature, the supplier, the material, the operating environment, add fans to this and desiccants to that and a spool holder that works and a dust cleaner/lube sponge and your machine will still go berzerk when you try to print something 6x6 on an 8x8 bed.&nbsp; Clogged nozzle?&nbsp; Don&#039;t try to fix it yourself, you&#039;ll void the warranty, buy a new one.&nbsp; And it ships in less than a week, yay!&nbsp; And it comes with the wrong connectors.&nbsp; So another week goes by and now I&#039;m awaiting the connectors, but since I don&#039;t have an order number, I can&#039;t even tell if they&#039;ve shipped.</p><p>Print&#039;s don&#039;t stick?&nbsp; Sand the Kapton, clean the Kapton, slather the Kapton with ABS slurry till the prints stick.&nbsp; Then you can&#039;t get them off without destroying the Kapton.&nbsp; Which is $20/sheet and takes TWO WEEKS between order acceptance and shipping.</p><p>Print 4 of something?&nbsp; Sure, just lay out four and it works fine!&nbsp; Print 12 of them?&nbsp; Sure, just lay out a bed-full and you&#039;ll break the filament (consistently) partway through the print.</p><p>I&#039;ve printed a few things that have been _wonderful_, and a few things that have been useful (Thank You Thingiverse!) but I feel like this whole industry is still in the garage shop/hobbyist phase.</p><p>OK, my bad for buying the cheap/inexpensive toy model, now that I see the promise of it, let&#039;s buy the good one, money is no object.&nbsp; Read the reviews, and my SD4 turns out to be one of the good ones.&nbsp; Everyone has the same issues.&nbsp; If you are a hobbyist and this is what you want to spend your time on then you are on the bleeding edge, where it&#039;s actually pretty interesting.</p><p>If you are a normal person (whatever that is, and I&#039;m certainly not) you&#039;re never going to be able to make this technology work in it&#039;s current incarnation.&nbsp; Yeah, you can go down to Staples or Home Depot or Best Buy and drop a grand (or two or three) on a Really Cool Machine, or you can do the mail order thing (or even the Kickstarter thing if you want to, but you&#039;ll get more value from dumping a few hundred dollars in small bills into the fireplace kindling cache), but either way you are going to be pulling your hair out, and if you aren&#039;t a hobbyist you&#039;re going to put it on the shelf with the breadmaker and the fancy coffee machine.</p><p>Or am I being overly grumpy because my machine broke and now I&#039;m down till some kind soul sends me new carriages?&nbsp; 8*)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 18:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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