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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I plan to build a clear, pyramid shaped, lid some day with a small aperture at the top for filament and mounts for the spool to allow overhead feed and still keep the enclosure intact but that is more a sidewall quality thing (I see perturbations on the front wall coinciding with the &quot;pull&quot;).&nbsp; The stepper slippage, however, occurs even when not pulling on the spool.&nbsp; It is an insufficient torque for the extruder temperature thing.&nbsp; Since the thermister is not in direct contact with the extrusion, there will be some flow dependent delta_T.&nbsp; Elevating the temperature should help, I just haven&#039;t gotten around to trying it since I have plenty to keep me busy while the printer is doing it&#039;s thing.&nbsp; But you are right (and to get back on topic :-)), adding the fan *should* enable me to increase speed - especially when printing smaller parts with insufficient time for the layers to cool passively.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 17:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It could be the motor&#039;s torque being not enough, but I doubt it. If that&#039;s the case, I think there&#039;s some mod for using bearings on the spool holder so the spool will rotate easier and another mod for making a vertical spool feeding system, but then I guess you don&#039;t have a heated chamber anymore as the top will need to be open.</p><p>EDIT: Odd, cant find a Solidoodle spool size &quot;filament spool bearing cap&quot; like this one <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:69520">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:69520</a><br />As for vertical spool holders, there are several<br /><a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:39879">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:39879</a><br /><a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:97734">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:97734</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 14:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The thing that limits my speed is the extruder stepper.&nbsp; If I go much over 150% feedrate at these settings, I can see the stepper slipping.&nbsp; I&#039;ll try again some day with elevated temperatures.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 14:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/83870/#p83870</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sounds pretty good.<br />You can try some test prints on Thingiverse for overhangs if you want to test further how food a fan is for printing. <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:33902">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:33902</a></p><p>I think what you can do now is to try to increase the speed of youe printer and see if your new fan allows to run faster.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (redbarret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 14:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/83860/#p83860</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>redbarret wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>TickTock wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had the fan off to adjust my wires and decide to do a proper experiment.&nbsp; I printed four tentacle segments of the <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:584405">octopus recently featured on Thingiverse</a> at 2X scale.&nbsp; First without the fan and again after reattaching the fan.&nbsp; Everything else held constant (same slicer code, filament, temperatures, etc).&nbsp; The benefit of the extruder fan is clear (top four are with fan on and bottom four and sans fan).</p></blockquote></div><p>Cool.<br />Pla/abs?<br />Infill settings, and support disabled?</p></blockquote></div><ul><li><p>ABS (eBay seller:<a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Printer-Filament-1kg-2-2lb-1-75mm-3mm-ABS-PLA-MakerBot-RepRap-/261464565916">eshop2018</a> - love this filament, I have too many spools from other suppliers I cannot make print well)</p></li><li><p>no support</p></li><li><p>40% infill</p></li><li><p>4 perimeters minimum + 4 solid layers top &amp; bottom</p></li><li><p>0.19755 layer height</p></li><li><p>150% first layer height for adhesion (I get some lifting at 100% and 200% breaks the glass when I try to remove)</p></li><li><p>100C bed temp (105C first layer)</p></li><li><p>205C extruder temp</p></li><li><p>50mm/s perimeter</p></li><li><p>60mm/s infill</p></li><li><p>glass bed+hair spray</p></li></ul>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 13:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/83831/#p83831</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TickTock wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had the fan off to adjust my wires and decide to do a proper experiment.&nbsp; I printed four tentacle segments of the <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:584405">octopus recently featured on Thingiverse</a> at 2X scale.&nbsp; First without the fan and again after reattaching the fan.&nbsp; Everything else held constant (same slicer code, filament, temperatures, etc).&nbsp; The benefit of the extruder fan is clear (top four are with fan on and bottom four and sans fan).</p></blockquote></div><p>Cool.<br />Pla/abs?<br />Infill settings, and support disabled?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (redbarret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 08:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jagowilson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yep, I call it my lucky plate! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>That is some plate! I really laughed about the cast iron comment, have half a dozen cast iron pans and that was the first thing I thought too!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 21:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/83669/#p83669</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had the fan off to adjust my wires and decide to do a proper experiment.&nbsp; I printed four tentacle segments of the <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:584405">octopus recently featured on Thingiverse</a> at 2X scale.&nbsp; First without the fan and again after reattaching the fan.&nbsp; Everything else held constant (same slicer code, filament, temperatures, etc).&nbsp; The benefit of the extruder fan is clear (top four are with fan on and bottom four and sans fan).</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;item=7758" alt="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;amp;item=7758" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 19:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I thought it would stick too well to be able to take it off easily. Thanks.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (redbarret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>redbarret wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>jagowilson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Spraying aquanet on both sides of the glass and using that for bed adhesion also creates a much more level surface than binder clips.</p></blockquote></div><p>What if you want to take off the glass plate though?</p></blockquote></div><p>You just put the scraper Solidoodle gave you under it and it comes right up. Then just put the glass back and let it sit for a minute or two before starting your next print. I have to renew the bottom hairspray every 10 prints or so or the head will knock the glass around.</p><p>I go through a lot of aquanet but it&#039;s so cheap I don&#039;t mind. It&#039;s like $2 at Walmart here.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 19:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jagowilson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Spraying aquanet on both sides of the glass and using that for bed adhesion also creates a much more level surface than binder clips.</p></blockquote></div><p>What if you want to take off the glass plate though?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (redbarret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 19:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Fan duct for Solidoodle 4?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I call it my lucky plate! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jagowilson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 16:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nice.&nbsp; So you have cultivated a hairspray/ABS/PLA/Nylon (and whatever else you print) coating.&nbsp; Kinda like seasoning a cast iron pan!&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Maybe I&#039;ll give that a shot with one of my plates.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (TickTock)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 15:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>For a really fine finish on the bottom I start with 120 and work my way up. </p><p>I think there&#039;s some science to it. The texture gives the plastic a surface to grip to, but There may be a chemical bond of some sort between the aquanet and plastic as well. I&#039;ve attached a picture of my bed glass. It is pretty filthy. I have utilized my entire build volume without warping even though I use the stock heater. Spraying aquanet on both sides of the glass and using that for bed adhesion also creates a much more level surface than binder clips. </p><p>Definitely don&#039;t spray inside the machine!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 15:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>What grit?</p><p>Interesting comment about the &quot;filthy&quot; bed.&nbsp; Do you reapply hairspray on top of the old?&nbsp; I always clean mine first.&nbsp; Goes to show how this is still very much more an art than a science - I have the opposite experience.&nbsp; After putting a fresh plate on, I get maybe ten prints before things stop sticking so well and I need to swap out the glass.&nbsp; I keep four ready to go with the hair spray applied (don&#039;t like spraying while in the machine - can&#039;t be good for the bearings or lubrication) and once I use the last plate I clean them all with alcohol, and reapply fresh hairspray.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 13:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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