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Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (viperz28) — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 01:53:59 +0000

I would think with a drop in you will have issues printing with flexible filament.

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (Telemachus) — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 11:13:18 +0000

Agreed, a drop in that fits the existing clip would be ideal. Maybe it's time to get to modeling...

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (scobo) — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 07:45:22 +0000

I went with this one ..... http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:608560
But I didn't bother removing the carriage. Instead I just drilled the holes and cut the space for the stepper with carriage in place by going in with a drill and dremel from the front door.
It was a little tight on room to manoeuvre but saved a fair bit of time.
I also got rid of the small extruder pcb while I was at it.
This one looks even more straight forward although it's for the Pro so not sure if it'll fit ..... http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1328848

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (Telemachus) — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 03:41:09 +0000

That is my main hold up on upgrading... Just not sure which setup to use!

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (viperz28) — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 19:34:50 +0000

Telemachus wrote:

viperz28 wrote:
That's exactly what I did as well.
Are you using Khing's setup from thingiverse?

I used this one http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:707530 but I am having issues, the PFTE tube after awhile bent making it a complete pain to load filament. I am now looking for other options.

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (Telemachus) — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 18:53:59 +0000

viperz28 wrote:

That's exactly what I did as well.

Are you using Khing's setup from thingiverse?

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (viperz28) — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:58:15 +0000

browning54213 wrote:

montressor wrote:
khing wrote:
No the distance is the same. the nozzle has the same hight as the original. I did not changed the firmware. (i tray to make photo later)
Interesting, seemed like you'd lose some vertical height with this. Going to try and adapt this to a Duo.
One other question: in the picture on thingiverse (http://bit.ly/1zlocv5) there appears to be an upper filament guide that doesn't seem to appear in either of the build docs you referenced. Is that a separate piece? As I'm primarily interested in printing flexible filaments, I'd like to grab and print this as well.
I tried to tell the designer this on thingiverse, but that uper filament guide has 0 impact on printing flexible filaments... The crucail area is after the filament LEAVES the extruder gear because the axial load on the filament at that point will induce bucking. To correct for this you will have to bring your PTFE tube right up next to the extruder gear and cut it in a v shape. This will help to constrain the filament as it enters the hot end and allow you to print faster.

That's exactly what I did as well.

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (browning54213) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:13:28 +0000

montressor wrote:

khing wrote:
No the distance is the same. the nozzle has the same hight as the original. I did not changed the firmware. (i tray to make photo later)
Interesting, seemed like you'd lose some vertical height with this. Going to try and adapt this to a Duo.
One other question: in the picture on thingiverse (http://bit.ly/1zlocv5) there appears to be an upper filament guide that doesn't seem to appear in either of the build docs you referenced. Is that a separate piece? As I'm primarily interested in printing flexible filaments, I'd like to grab and print this as well.

I tried to tell the designer this on thingiverse, but that uper filament guide has 0 impact on printing flexible filaments... The crucial area is after the filament LEAVES the extruder gear because the axial load on the filament at that point will induce bucking. To correct for this you will have to bring your PTFE tube right up next to the extruder gear and cut it in a v shape. This will help to constrain the filament as it enters the hot end and allow you to print faster.

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (browning54213) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:13:21 +0000

montressor wrote:

khing wrote:
No the distance is the same. the nozzle has the same hight as the original. I did not changed the firmware. (i tray to make photo later)
Interesting, seemed like you'd lose some vertical height with this. Going to try and adapt this to a Duo.
One other question: in the picture on thingiverse (http://bit.ly/1zlocv5) there appears to be an upper filament guide that doesn't seem to appear in either of the build docs you referenced. Is that a separate piece? As I'm primarily interested in printing flexible filaments, I'd like to grab and print this as well.

I tried to tell the designer this on thingiverse, but that uper filament guide has 0 impact on printing flexible filaments... The crucail area is after the filament LEAVES the extruder gear because the axial load on the filament at that point will induce bucking. To correct for this you will have to bring your PTFE tube right up next to the extruder gear and cut it in a v shape. This will help to constrain the filament as it enters the hot end and allow you to print faster.

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (leenanj) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:11:55 +0000

carl_m1968 wrote:

montressor wrote:
So how much vertical height to you lose on the print area with a direct drive setup? And how/where do you make the adjustment in the firmware?
Are you running stock firmware or Repetier firmware? If stock there is no way to access the value you would need which is your z offset. If stock you would have to add it to your start gcode to create an offset equal to the new space needed by the extruder plus the previous amount most likely. If in Repetier firmware there is a z offset in the EEPROM config file that you access in Repetier host.

Carl where is this z offset located, from the lcd panel ?, can't find it.

If you install a nozzle that is different height than original can this compensate?

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (montressor) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:12:46 +0000

khing wrote:

No the distance is the same. the nozzle has the same hight as the original. I did not changed the firmware. (i tray to make photo later)

Interesting, seemed like you'd lose some vertical height with this. Going to try and adapt this to a Duo.

One other question: in the picture on thingiverse (http://bit.ly/1zlocv5) there appears to be an upper filament guide that doesn't seem to appear in either of the build docs you referenced. Is that a separate piece? As I'm primarily interested in printing flexible filaments, I'd like to grab and print this as well.

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (khing) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:55:19 +0000

carl_m1968 wrote:

In other words the distance from the nozzle to the lowest point the bed can travel will be less than it was with the original.

No the distance is the same. the nozzle has the same hight as the original. I did not changed the firmware. (i tray to make photo later)

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (carl_m1968) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:45:12 +0000

khing wrote:

montressor wrote:
So how much vertical height to you lose on the print area with a direct drive setup? And how/where do you make the adjustment in the firmware?
In this design the head is raised by 19,4 mm. The new holes can be made with help of the drill-mal.stl

I think he meant how much space from the nozzle to the bed do you loose. In other words the distance from the nozzle to the lowest point the bed can travel will be less than it was with the original. I guess the correct word from your view is how much lower is the nozzle on this design.

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (khing) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:40:41 +0000

montressor wrote:

So how much vertical height to you lose on the print area with a direct drive setup? And how/where do you make the adjustment in the firmware?

In this design the head is raised by 19,4 mm. The new holes can be made with help of the drill-mal.stl

Re: An other design E3D V6 for da vinci

null@example.com (carl_m1968) — Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:23:15 +0000

montressor wrote:

So how much vertical height to you lose on the print area with a direct drive setup? And how/where do you make the adjustment in the firmware?

Are you running stock firmware or Repetier firmware? If stock there is no way to access the value you would need which is your z offset. If stock you would have to add it to your start gcode to create an offset equal to the new space needed by the extruder plus the previous amount most likely. If in Repetier firmware there is a z offset in the EEPROM config file that you access in Repetier host.