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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 21:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DePartedPrinter wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What about aesthetics of the machine?&nbsp; Then the options become somewhat limited.</p><p>The only reason I got a Press was for its curves!</p></blockquote></div><p>Curves and aesthetics are for pretty girls and fast cars. I don&#039;t care a bit what my power tools look like, they&#039;re not display pieces at an art museum.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (elmoret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I do think the press when&#039;s some points for slightly more attractive... However... That being said this is a tool, and when it comes down to function... That&#039;s what reigns supreme in my choice wars.&nbsp; </p><p>I&#039;ll also, having studied industrial design, and doing product design myself... I&#039;m not so sure either rank very highly in my book as far as beautiful products go. Better than a naked steel frame? For sure... But still a long ways to go before I swoon over there looks.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m not really a fan of how Solidoodle does business, but XYZ isn&#039;t much better. Vote with your dollars.</p><p>Just buy something, all this time hemming and hawing and waiting could be spent printing. Just realize that at $500 you&#039;re going to put in some of your own dollars, blood, sweat and tears to get quality and reliability that you&#039;d expect out of a Ultimaker or similar.</p><p>If I wanted cheapest possible, I&#039;d get a used Solidoodle 2 or 3 off eBay or these forums for $200-300.</p><p>If I wanted good quality (and still cheap), I&#039;d get a Mendel90 or ORDbot.</p><p>If I wanted good quality and not a kit, I&#039;d probably get a TAZ4 or Ultimaker2.</p><p>Pay to play, either with dollars or time.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>What about aesthetics of the machine?&nbsp; Then the options become somewhat limited.</p><p>The only reason I got a Press was for its curves!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DePartedPrinter)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/70080/#p70080</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Please report back with your first impressions of the DaVinci!&nbsp; I&#039;m strongly considering one myself.&nbsp; I&#039;ve got a pending Press order, but depending upon the promised FAQ on Friday, I may be looking for something else.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/70068/#p70068</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>@ Tin Falcon&nbsp; Yeah, They have not been in the wild yet.&nbsp; Unless you consider Solidoodle&#039;s HQ wild?&nbsp; Which, you might;)</p><p>Anyhow, I realized the Da Vinci would have it&#039;s quirks, failure prone issues.&nbsp; But after owning a Solidoodle 3... I am positive it can&#039;t be worse... maybe the same, but not worse.&nbsp; The other thing that bothered me once I looked at all the specs of the Da Vinci 1.0 was how long it&#039;s been out, Steel frame, brass bearings, Built-in SD/LCD, and the filament wiper w/ catch basin.... I just feel like they actually finished the thought of what a consumer 3D printer should be.&nbsp; Where as the press while much closer, seems like a, oh no! We need to catch up with everyone else.&nbsp; QUICK! Let&#039;s put something together, and then....</p><p>Never mind I&#039;m just glad to be done with the whole Press mess. I hate their constant promise of amazing experience wrapped inside some of the most frustrating customer support experiences i&#039;ve ever had.&nbsp; Each time while they recovered well, it was such a HUGE struggle to get them to just take care of the issue...</p><p>Anyhow.&nbsp; I think what most printer companies are struggling with is that they just don&#039;t seem to want to listen to the general advanced users who are telling them what there machines are struggling to accomplish.&nbsp; It&#039;s like they put together what there designers think is right, but don&#039;t listen to what we tell them we NEED.</p><p>lol, rant done.&nbsp; Now in zen zone knowing i&#039;ll have my hands on a 3d printer by Halloween.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/70046/#p70046</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I hope it works out for you . I agree the davinci has a few nice features the SD does not offer like stand alone printing from an SD chip. There seems to be a lot of failure issues from the davinci. broken glass beds no heat to extruder etc. I hope you have read through some of the posts. But I admit there have been plenty of similar problems with the SD and plenty of dissatisfied customers. </p><p>As far as the press not sure if any have been released into the wild yet . They are due or release. so how can one compare anything to a model that has yet to see the light of day. We have a spec sheet and a few minutes of video that is it. </p><p>I considered a davinci. purchased a used SD4 instead it works. </p><p>Tin</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well thanks for tempting me, and than confirming me with consolation... I want a scanner for repairing broken parts, so I want high resolution.&nbsp; Like you said that just doesn&#039;t seem to exist on the consumer end yet.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (pastprimitive)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 vs Press]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m pretty sure any real good quality 3D scanning is years away.&nbsp; All the scanned things I have seen so far are only good for organic shapes not hard edges. And even those are not too good.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s super funny. I literally just looked at that 5 minutes ago... I was tempted... Sorely tempted.&nbsp; But I am still not sure about the 3d scanning quality yet, and I don&#039;t have an extra $300 to throw at it right now.&nbsp; I wish they would offer it as an upgrade to their Da Vinci 1.0 since it seems like it&#039;s pretty much just a 1.0 with two more components.&nbsp; </p><p>Anyhow I have not been very good about searching through all the various options, and today I finally did, and was disappointed about how far behind solidoodle seems.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just to mess with your thinking, you should get this <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br /><a href="http://3dprint.com/21182/xyzprinting-da-vinci-aio-scan/">http://3dprint.com/21182/xyzprinting-da-vinci-aio-scan/</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well I just voted for XYZ... mostly because it looks so much friendlier for me to mod, and I much prefer seeing the steel frame.&nbsp; Also I am tired of solidoodle customer support.&nbsp; The best part, I&#039;ll have it here this Friday. </p><p>Agreed these $500 machine&#039;s are bottom tier, but I have tons of spare parts, electronics, steppers, etc... So for me the best value is to get these pre-assembled kit machines <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>I&#039;m a little disappointed that Solidoodle&#039;s press seems so far behind in comparison.&nbsp; The only feature that the Press seemed to have on the the Da Vinci was the auto-bed leveling implementation on the press took 9 calibration points into consideration, where as the Da Vinci only uses 3.&nbsp; </p><p>However I can live with that, or upgrade....</p><p>And thus a new modification journey begins!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not really a fan of how Solidoodle does business, but XYZ isn&#039;t much better. Vote with your dollars.</p><p>Just buy something, all this time hemming and hawing and waiting could be spent printing. Just realize that at $500 you&#039;re going to put in some of your own dollars, blood, sweat and tears to get quality and reliability that you&#039;d expect out of a Ultimaker or similar.</p><p>If I wanted cheapest possible, I&#039;d get a used Solidoodle 2 or 3 off eBay or these forums for $200-300.</p><p>If I wanted good quality (and still cheap), I&#039;d get a Mendel90 or ORDbot.</p><p>If I wanted good quality and not a kit, I&#039;d probably get a TAZ4 or Ultimaker2.</p><p>Pay to play, either with dollars or time.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I just saw that.&nbsp; But the sale ended:( Super sucky. But still worth the $45 difference i paid for my Press at $400 + $60.&nbsp; What do you think about it elmoret?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DePartedPrinter wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>pastprimitive wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why is anyone buying the Press is what I am thinking?</p></blockquote></div><p>My press was only $350</p></blockquote></div><p>Plus shipping. DaVinci is (was?) $400 on newegg with shipping.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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