I was simply saying I found it a LOT easier to work with, as a newbie, than I did the ABS.

the quality of the filament has a bit to do with it as well - we did a lot of researching to find good quality suppliers at reasonable prices.
for PLA, we usually buy from Monoprice
for ABS it is Octave

I haven't run into any major issues with either brand/product. Have only had one clog, on the stock hotend, and that was kind of my own fault for leaving it hot and idle for too long (got distracted by something) and I did a lot of swapping back and forth between the two types for a while.

Belcher wrote:

I don't know about what problems you are talking about. I have watched the whole video but did not found any issue. Can you be descriptive?

I think he means that they're using PLA, and it's one of the more difficult materials to print with. When you have a 3d printer sold as any other piece of electronics, customers will expect it to work out of the box, and PLA is notoriously picky.

Really? I had way better luck printing with PLA than I did with ABS just starting out.

PLA runs at cooler temps, and doesn't necessarily need a heated bed, although it does help (cooler here, too), nor does it need a full enclosure. I rarely had issues with PLA warping, although it did happen occasionally with larger items. the biggest problem with PLA is bridging... it doesn't like to bridge without sag unless you have a filament fan, and/or supports.

ABS on the other hand pretty much requires a heated bed and some sort of additive to get it to stay stuck down (hairspray, gluestick, slurry, or what have you), a full enclosure, and higher temps from both the hotend and the bed. warping and/or cracking is a common problem, too... and it takes a lot more tweaking of things to get good results from ABS for a beginner...

just my 2.5 cents worth...

all of that said, I am much more comfortable with the ABS now, and haven't printed anything in PLA for about a month now... nothing at all since upgrading to the E3D... one of these days I am going to need to try it through the E3D, just because I have 6 rolls of the stuff in the storage bin...

or maybe we will save it for the Folger Tech 2020 Prusa i3.... LOL

I don't know about what problems you are talking about. I have watched the whole video but did not found any issue. Can you be descriptive?

I think he means that they're using PLA, and it's one of the more difficult materials to print with. When you have a 3d printer sold as any other piece of electronics, customers will expect it to work out of the box, and PLA is notoriously picky.

I see many problems with this...PLA being #1

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/ … qus_thread

http://www.loveandbuyit.net/product/che … se-grater/

I don't know about what problems you are talking about. I have watched the whole video but did not found any issue. Can you be descriptive?

Wow! A new kickstarter million dollar money maker - timed destruct filament! :-).

Already exists... It's called PLA.

lueman wrote:

DePartedPrinter wrote:

I can't picture a Home Depot thingiverse until they can figure out a way to sell you a part file and them limit how many times you can print it.

Oh how I miss the days I actually owned what I brought!

In this example, you would own the 3D printer and purchase a single 3D print of a screw that you print out. You still own the screw you printed. You don't have to destroy it at midnight

Yet.

DePartedPrinter wrote:

I can't picture a Home Depot thingiverse until they can figure out a way to sell you a part file and them limit how many times you can print it.

Oh how I miss the days I actually owned what I brought!

In this example, you would own the 3D printer and purchase a single 3D print of a screw that you print out. You still own the screw you printed. You don't have to destroy it at midnight

I can't picture a Home Depot thingiverse until they can figure out a way to sell you a part file and them limit how many times you can print it.

This can already be done using technology from Authentise.com and other providers. It basically streams the G Code to the home computer for 3D printing per print, so the designer does not have to distribute the whole .STL source file to people.

Mine was one of the last generations that had wood or metal shop in school. We had drafting classes. Now schools aren't geared to making kids smart and capable. They are there to make it so a kid can go to college and have just very basic skills in how to learn.

I never had auto shop but i can design furniture read blue prints and if i have the tools build it. I have the background of an artist in many different disciplines. And am still learning to print in 3d. But I understand how to make. I have a respect for it. Back at christmas time i painted 2 paintings for my soon to be inlaws and they were amazed and one goes man that must have taken hours and hours. And i was struck by the fact what i considered to be no time they look at with it being a huge mystery. (btw it may have taken 3 hours apiece to paint them) to someone who paints though thats not much time. But the average person doesn't know the time put in on all the other projects that come before.

The failed Ideas or the not quite right ones. Why because most people don't make anything and don't know how because walmart is just good enough.

I was exhibiting at a model engineering show a few few weeks ago. I had a few items on the table along with my model engines.  One of the attendees asked if I built the 3d printer . when I told them no, the attidue was why is that stuff here if you just pushed a button? I did not even try to respond.  Likely the person has the all good things come from wall mart mind set.
I have a couple acquaintances  that I have showed my prints to . One is an engineer that has taught autodesk and has run commercial grade 3d printers and has just purchased an.Ulitmaker 2 . Another friend  has built several cnc machines has helped build a few dozen more and has worked in helping develop some of the MACH cnc software.  He has a Solidoodle 4.  Both friends have complimented my 3d prints. So I must be doing something right. 
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The public needs a "Should I buy a 3D printer?" flowchart.

"Can you use a CAD package" -> Yes -> Maybe
-> No -> You don't need a 3D printer