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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Rather than trying to find the connectors, then wires, I opted for the above-mentioned harness route. Thing is, a harness by itself sells for ~$15 +shipping. This stepper motor comes with a harness that looks like it has the correct connector...for $7. <br /><a href="http://www.robotdigg.com/product/7/NEMA17-Stepper-Motor-40mm-Long,-1.2A">http://www.robotdigg.com/product/7/NEMA … Long,-1.2A</a></p><p>Will this harness work (I would probably cut off the end that does not connect to the motor and solder the wires to the pre-existing ones)? I wouldn&#039;t use the motor, I may just ask to buy it separately.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2015 02:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Good idea. What guage wire is used in USB? From reading the specs on the JST-ZH. The crimp connecters can go down to 26 guage wire.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chevydan6 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah i found it. Its a JST-ZH series connector Ordered a few from digikey and im going to use cat5 for the wires.</p></blockquote></div><p>CAT 5 is not all that flexible.&nbsp; I was actually thinking of switching all of mine to USB cables. You only need 4 conductors max and USB has 5.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 01:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah i found it. Its a JST-ZH series connector Ordered a few from digikey and im going to use cat5 for the wires.</p><p>EDIT: NOPE NOT JST-ZH its a JST-PH</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (chevydan6)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 01:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chevydan6 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what kind of connectors are used on the x-axis harness? I pulled the harness and I just want to rebuild a new one and never have this problem again</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>It is a JST and the X axis is a 4 pin JST.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chevydan6 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what kind of connectors are used on the x-axis harness? I pulled the harness and I just want to rebuild a new one and never have this problem again</p></blockquote></div><p>They dont have a specific name as they are made by a host of companies. You will just need to go to Mouser or Digikeys website and look at images and match them. Or go on ebay and buy nema 17 stepper harness like I was thinking of doing till I found my issue was a bad driver.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (carl_m1968)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>what kind of connectors are used on the x-axis harness? I pulled the harness and I just want to rebuild a new one and never have this problem again</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (chevydan6)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 02:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>For anybody else having offset issues, This may not be the cause for you, but I had a similar problem and it turned out the way the wiring going to the extruder was held on the extruder/hot end chassis, it would sometimes get caught on the lever and hold it back. I ended up rerouting the wiring and haven&#039;t had any problems since (I can get a picture if this was hard to understand).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>After some troubleshooting I have resolved my X axis missing steps.&nbsp; I am sure that everyone with a divinci will encounter this issue eventually.&nbsp; The wire harness going to the X axis is made with VERY cheap brittle wire.&nbsp; I found my issue when I was lightly pulling on the wire and the orange one just broke in half in my hand!&nbsp; all of the wires in that area were found to be cracked / weakened.&nbsp; my break occurred about 3 inches out side the motor where it has to bend back and forth during printing.&nbsp; I replaced the wire with high quality servo wire and my missed steps are gone!&nbsp; I did not have any extra plugs that attach to the stepper motor so I cut the wires about 1 inch from the connector and soldered in new servo wire.&nbsp; MY case is back together and I am on my third print with no missed steps.</p><p>I highly suggest everyone replace the wire harness going to the stepper motor.&nbsp; I am sure you could get away with just replacing the wire that moves back and forth during printing - but that will solve your missed steps.</p><p>Thanks for all the great info!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 20:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to jsnbrgg for the heads ip on the X axis plug.&nbsp; My DaVinci 1.0a has begun sever step loss as well (X axis only).&nbsp; This is after flash to lucs repetier .92, but appears unrelated.&nbsp; Motors are not hot, nor are driver chips.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t believe the plug, but tried removing the right side.&nbsp; The missed steps were much less severe, but still present.&nbsp; I tried conductivity paste on the plug, and slight bends in the male pins to no avail.&nbsp; Finally, in desperation, I removed the motor, disassembled, removed the plug, and soldered in a solid portion of wire.&nbsp; My next 14 hour print was flawless.&nbsp; At this point, I put the right side back on - and my missed steps were back.&nbsp; I have removed the right side again, and am much farther into my next print with no lost steps.&nbsp; Perhaps it is not the plug but actual defective wires.&nbsp; The stock harness certainly tends to kink around the carriage at the X axis motor.</p><p>At this point, I expect that the wire will likely fail completely before long, and I will replace the harness with decent motion grade wires instead of the cheap crap that xyZprinting installed as a full motion harness.</p><p>Note that I will begin a new thread with listing this as a known defect in the da vinci printer, so others with the same problrm can find it easier...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 20:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>enginerd wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In case anyone else encounters this issue...</p><p>My printer would start a print job and then suddenly shift on the x an y axis location and continue printing somewhere else.&nbsp; I tried different files and then, in this picture, you can see i also tried to print a sample file to see if it was something with the files that were being sent over.&nbsp; After corresponding with customer support, I had the option to send back the unit for repair or send back the motherboard.&nbsp; I opted for the latter.&nbsp; We&#039;ll see how that turns out.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have a pretty new printer with about two weeks worth of printing on it (1.0a flavor) and it starting shifting prints like this and after much testing it turns out that the wires plugging into the stepper motor on the side were rubbing back and forth on the plastic wall near the hand hold, and as those wires at the plug (for the motor and end stop sensor) wiggle back and forth it would cause my prints to randomly shift.&nbsp; I tried swapping the wiring harness between the X and Y steppers to test this and got the same random shifting on the same motor.&nbsp; So I think it&#039;s the plug on the stepper motor that is loosing connection as it wiggles rather than the harness.&nbsp; I removed the plastic wall on that side and pushed that side up against the wall so it&#039;s not wide open, but nothing there for those wires to rub against and haven&#039;t had any issues since.</p><p>Eventually I&#039;ll probably replace that motor with one that doesn&#039;t have this type of connector, or maybe just open it up and solder the wiring harness into it.</p><p>Hope this helps!</p><p>J.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>A few commentators said they had successful builds. The thing that has me beat is that the offset problem only happens when I print with the stubs pointing upwards. No problem when stubs are downwards. I&#039;ll try netfabb, and also I&#039;ll try adding a pedestal to see if the offset stays at the same height from the glass or remains relative to the tri-joint. Troubleshooting by printing takes so long though, so suggestions are appreciated.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2015 09:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mcgyro wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Having a similar problem when printing out the tri-joints for the hyperbolic planetary gearset (aug 26 2014) listed in Thingiverse. When I print them with bearing stubs pointing down, the stub bearing quality is poor. If I try inverting the CAD model and printing stubs pointing up, the bearing quality is fine. However I get a sudden XY permanent offset of about 15mm, about 10mm up from the glass, rendering the part unusable. Tried it three times and the offset is in the same place each time. Curious that the offset appears with stubs up but not with stubs down.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Did they have any actual makes posted? Did you run the stl through netfabb? Most of the stuff oh Thingi is just coceived models that generate an stl. But a majority of them have never been printed or even proven ptintsble.&nbsp; </p><p>Many of the model makers over there have no concept of how printers work or what is needed to make a model printed. Many just enjoy making 3D models and never intended for them to be printed.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 07:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Having a similar problem when printing out the tri-joints for the hyperbolic planetary gearset (aug 26 2014) listed in Thingiverse. When I print them with bearing stubs pointing down, the stub bearing quality is poor. If I try inverting the CAD model and printing stubs pointing up, the bearing quality is fine. However I get a sudden XY permanent offset of about 15mm, about 10mm up from the glass, rendering the part unusable. Tried it three times and the offset is in the same place each time. Curious that the offset appears with stubs up but not with stubs down.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 07:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: severe offset printing problem]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>@Scofthe7seas <br />Odds are the model has errors. Being homemade made many of the thingverse models do. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /><br />Try opening your model with NetFabb Basic (free) repair and resave it. That may fix the &quot;same spot on the model&#039; issue.</p><p>@cadarousse<br />I have had the same issue, usually with a full cartridge. I actual saw it happen once. After it happed a few more times I just removed all the spools form the cartages and made a PVC Pipe rack to hold them. Putting the empty cartage in the printer and feeding the spool down from the top.<br />This worked fine until I wore / tore a grove in the edge of the rubber feed tube by the cartridge. Then it started to snag / bind on that. I just removed it and feed the filament through the empty hole, no more problems.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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