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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Filament Extruder - Convert pellets to filament]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>58 pages is enough, still definitely recommended reading though. Locking this thread, if you want to continue discussion about a particular aspect, post a new topic.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 05:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Filament Extruder - Convert pellets to filament]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ralphxyz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Then why did you say:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>A graphic designer. Did you get a Kickstarter kit?</p></blockquote></div><p>In your reply to the logo, which I also would be interested in.</p><p>That implies there is something to receive as part of the Kickstarter.</p><p>Believe me Tim you could take six months or more to deliver my Filastruder kit, but I do like to have answers as to what I am receiving.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not even sure where to start here. I&#039;ve had a long day, but want to respond promptly.</p><p>I said &quot;Did you get a Kickstarter kit&quot;, but should have said &quot;Did you pledge for a Kickstarter kit&quot;. I was replying quickly since I was running late for something, and I assumed people knew nothing had shipped yet, since I DEFINITELY would have announced that.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ralphxyz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Of course just from these threads I am seeing some possible improvements.</p></blockquote></div><p>Agreed. That&#039;s why I got these out to beta testers as fast as I could, and will ship to Kickstarter backers as fast as I can. I feel it is better to leverage the creativity and time of others to benefit the community than to naively believe I can design and implement everything myself. There are other approaches to this like QU-BD, who started a beta program in October but still hasn&#039;t shipped a single unit or and their prototype independently verified. Then there&#039;s Filabot, who has taken over a year, still hasn&#039;t shipped anything, and is basically nonresponsive/nonupdating.</p><p>I&#039;ve tried to reply promptly to everyone, and in nearly every case I&#039;ve been able to reply to people within 24 hours. I don&#039;t see Sam Cervantes doing that there on the forums, ha!</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ralphxyz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Nathan at QU-BD didn&#039;t give the Filastruder a rousing endorsement just that a slow speed the filament &quot;should&quot; be ok.</p></blockquote></div><p>This just isn&#039;t truthful. Here&#039;s what Nathan said:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Nathan QU-BD wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>IT PRINTS WELL for &#039;normal&#039; stuff. Bottom Line: Is it worth it? I would say yes assuming that you sourced virgin pellets from a reputable supplier. It would be great for &#039;everyday&#039; printing for non-cosmetic parts. I would venture to guess that on a i3 or Makerbot or equivalent you might not even notice a difference since they are printing slowly and aren&#039;t particularly rigid.</p></blockquote></div><p>&quot;Prints well for normal stuff.&quot; Ralph, I&#039;m not sure if you have a 3D printer, but 250mm/s is REALLY fast. &quot;normal&quot; speed on a Solidoodle 2 or 3 is 60mm/s or so. Nathan said this filament was fine up to 250mm/s, which is 4 times faster than what most 3d printers print at. I wouldn&#039;t call that slow, personally. </p><p>Finally, print speed is really a function of the type of plastic you use - it comes down to a number called MFI, or melt flow index. The higher the MFI, the easier the plastic flows. If you wanted a easier flowing plastic, just buy one with a higher MFI. What I sent him was Sabic MG94.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ralphxyz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Have you made any consistent improvement in filament tolerance?</p></blockquote></div><p>There are some tweaks that can be done, ranging from easy to hard. You can adjust the position of the auger, the temperature of the die, the fan placement, the PID algorithm (autotune it), etc. You could also add a puller, which let Ian get inside +/-0.03mm.</p><p>The filament I sent Nathan had none of these tweaks - just the standard kit. Only one beta tester has reported tolerances outside +/-0.05, and and brought that inside +/-0.05mm by tweaking the auger position - moving it 1/4&quot; into the melt zone.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ralphxyz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Also very little has been said about other material, PLA, HDPE, NYLON etc. Has anyone ran a couple of pounds, what was the tolerance?</p></blockquote></div><p>Very little has been said because not much is known.<br />PLA: Only became accessible in pellet form a little over a month ago. I&#039;ve been busy with Kickstarter stuff ever since. Most users here use ABS, for a number of reasons.<br />HDPE: Really difficult to print with. Crazy warp, doesn&#039;t stick very well to itself or the bed. No one really uses it.<br />Nylon: Extraordinarily difficult to source. I managed to get some from Shapeways, it extruded like ABS and printed fine, for what I know about printing Nylon.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 05:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The thread at QUBD was in relation to their upcoming ultra fast printer, so when he said slow, he meant the speeds most people print normally.&nbsp; If you are going to print at 300mm/sec you need filament that melts and flows very quickly which depends a lot on the properties of the plastic itself in addition to the size and tolerance of the filament.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 02:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Then why did you say:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>A graphic designer. Did you get a Kickstarter kit?</p></blockquote></div><p>In your reply to the logo, which I also would be interested in.</p><p>That implies there is something to receive as part of the Kickstarter.</p><p>Believe me Tim you could take six months or more to deliver my Filastruder kit, but I do like to have answers as to what I am receiving.</p><p>Of course just from these threads I am seeing some possible improvements.</p><p>Nathan at QU-BD didn&#039;t give the Filastruder a rousing endorsement just that a slow speed the filament &quot;should&quot; be ok.</p><p>Have you made any consistent improvement in filament tolerance?</p><p>Also very little has been said about other material, PLA, HDPE, NYLON etc. Has anyone ran a couple of pounds, what was the tolerance?</p><p>Ralph</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ralphxyz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What is the Kickstarter kit? I didn&#039;t get anything!!</p><p>Ralph</p></blockquote></div><p>What?</p><p>It&#039;s what people pledged for on kickstarter. Nothing has shipped yet, patience!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 02:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>What is the Kickstarter kit? I didn&#039;t get anything!!</p><p>Ralph</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 01:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Nimikin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I didn&#039;t think about wear on the brass. I see aluminum powder at 5 microns and remembered that Shapeways offered alumide. Apparently they use SLS though.&nbsp; It was just a thought. I had the idea after reading about Lawoo-3d. <br />@Elmoret -I did get a kit. I was going to CNC the case and thought it would look better with the logo <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, I talked to them about their alumide, they said it wears out their nozzles. Specifically: </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I dont think so. It wouldn&#039;t matter much because Alumide is not extrudable. We have tried in our Melt Flow indexing machine and the aluminum powder wears out the nozzle in just a few uses and the filament produced is extremely brittle.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, we include a similar sticker in every kit with the logo and a place for a serial number. If you want the *.ai file, I&#039;m happy to send it - shoot me a PM with your email.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#039;t think about wear on the brass. I see aluminum powder at 5 microns and remembered that Shapeways offered alumide. Apparently they use SLS though.&nbsp; It was just a thought. I had the idea after reading about Lawoo-3d. <br />@Elmoret -I did get a kit. I was going to CNC the case and thought it would look better with the logo <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Pewter has a melting temp of 180-210C, give it a shot.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Nimikin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Has anyone tried to add metal powder (such as aluminum or iron) or other mineral dyes to extruded plastic?</p></blockquote></div><p>Metal powder would wear the nozzle pretty rapidly - like sandblasting. It&#039;d also clog the nozzle of the printer, unless the particle size was &lt;&lt; nozzle size.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 22:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Nimikin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Random question 1. Where did the logo on the enclosure come from?<br /> and 2. Where can I get one, or digital files so I can make one?</p></blockquote></div><p>A graphic designer. Did you get a Kickstarter kit?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 22:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone tried to add metal powder (such as aluminum or iron) or other mineral dyes to extruded plastic?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Nimikin)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 21:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Random question 1. Where did the logo on the enclosure come from?<br /> and 2. Where can I get one, or digital files so I can make one?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 05:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You guys are great. elmoret ty for helping me in my thread and good luck to your project. this is definitely the next thing I get.</p><p>Also just noticed your kickstarter campaign... Thats impressive, sir. I put on a hat just to tip it in what i believe is your general direction. You just wont at life.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zoltan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you. So, the auger should be cut at the end of the nipple. I suppose that there is a distance of less 1&quot;. I really appreciate. I have been very frustrated as I did not understand the poor performance of my extruder. Just today early in the morning I realized that there must be a melting zone between the auger and brass cap where the pressure must be created. Thank you again.</p></blockquote></div><p>There is no &quot;should&quot;, really. I am no expert.</p><p>I have read two textbooks and many papers on extrusion theory, you should look into them.</p><p>Typically, there is space between the end of the screw and the beginning of the nozzle/die:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Injection_moulding.png/800px-Injection_moulding.png" alt="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Injection_moulding.png/800px-Injection_moulding.png" /></span></p><p>Anyway, your questions are not about a Filastruder, so if you don&#039;t mind could you make further posts in the Projects section? This thread is already 57 pages long, let&#039;s try to stay on topic.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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