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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Newly Installed E3D Problems]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>108.5 sounds correct with a multiplier of 1 - at least, in the ballpark.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you 1,000 times more. Now I&#039;m fairly certain I need to adjust the VREF</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 01:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Newly Installed E3D Problems]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>108.5 sounds correct with a multiplier of 1 - at least, in the ballpark.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 01:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Newly Installed E3D Problems]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>MIcrostepping is limited by the stepper driver on the motherboard, and determined by the jumpers. If you haven&#039;t upgraded the stepper drivers, then you are limited 1/16. If you have a printrboard, you are limited to 1/16 unless you replace the whole board. If you have a Sanguinololu, you can replace just the one stepper driver. You can probably get better results that what you currently have by tuning the stepper Vref by hand/ear.</p><p>108.5 sounds a lot more like steps/mm than extrusion multiplier...</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for the clarification, Tim.<br />And yes, I phrased it wrong...108.5 steps per mm in EEPROM is what I meant to say <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 01:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Newly Installed E3D Problems]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>MIcrostepping is limited by the stepper driver on the motherboard, and determined by the jumpers. If you haven&#039;t upgraded the stepper drivers, then you are limited 1/16. If you have a printrboard, you are limited to 1/16 unless you replace the whole board. If you have a Sanguinololu, you can replace just the one stepper driver. You can probably get better results that what you currently have by tuning the stepper Vref by hand/ear.</p><p>108.5 sounds a lot more like steps/mm than extrusion multiplier...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 00:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Newly Installed E3D Problems]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Boz wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you all again for your help.&nbsp; I was able to solder and install the new driver yesterday, and also retrim all of my stepper drivers.&nbsp; The results are pretty noticeable.&nbsp; I hope to get a new extruder stepper down the road and improve it even more.&nbsp; Here are some comparison pictures:</p><p>E3D Hotend, 1/16 microstepping (Before):</p><p><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wmfootball75/media/PhotoDec10100453PM.jpg.html"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/wmfootball75/PhotoDec10100453PM.jpg" alt="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/wmfootball75/PhotoDec10100453PM.jpg" /></span></a></p><p>E3D Hotend, 1/32 microstepping (After):</p><p><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wmfootball75/media/PhotoDec10100449PM.jpg.html"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/wmfootball75/PhotoDec10100449PM.jpg" alt="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/wmfootball75/PhotoDec10100449PM.jpg" /></span></a></p></blockquote></div><p>First off...sorry for quoting large images.</p><p>I installed the E3D and immediately noticed a difference. But my current issue still looks more like the first image I quoted. So I have two separate questions:<br />1) For adjusting microstepping- This is through RH under tools and leadscrew calculator, correct?<br />2) For extrusion multiplier I have 1 and EEPROM states 108.5....this seems a bit high, but I don&#039;t want to mess anything up.<br />Plus, it&#039;s a bit faster to ask the forum than a series of trial and observation. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 00:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cada wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks - this fixed things for me too.<br />The extruder stepper noise went from chigchigchigchig to mmmmmmmmmmmmm<br />After this I had to change my steps per mm from 98 to 136<br />but I think it&#039;s cured my wavy extrusion problem <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>For steps/mm that seems high I would think your extrusion multiplier is off or filament diameter is not accurate.&nbsp; Steps/mm should be right around 104 - 108.&nbsp; Even if you think your getting good results it will affect something else at some point.&nbsp; Either way if it&#039;s working... Great.&nbsp; You will want to take note of it being set rather high for future trouble shooting of some other issues you come across.<br />Happy printing.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks - this fixed things for me too.<br />The extruder stepper noise went from chigchigchigchig to mmmmmmmmmmmmm<br />After this I had to change my steps per mm from 98 to 136<br />but I think it&#039;s cured my wavy extrusion problem <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 22:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>salsaman wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A hearty lurker&#039;s THANK YOU from me as well-- that little turn of the pot really iced my cake of upgrades <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>On the left: er... this was supposed to be an upgrade!<br />On the right: PHEW!</p></blockquote></div><p>Glad to see your getting some positive results.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>A hearty lurker&#039;s THANK YOU from me as well-- that little turn of the pot really iced my cake of upgrades <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>On the left: er... this was supposed to be an upgrade!<br />On the right: PHEW!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>You guys are AWESOME!! </p><p>My printer is fixed, after a long time trying to get this to work with the E3D, and now it is.<br />THANK YOU all for your help. <br />I owe you a drink.<br />Thanks G</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 03:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>i didn&#039;t think my board had them, but now i see them.<br />Thanks G</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 02:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Or just adjust the VREF trimpots. .. there is no difference to the printrboard in this regard.... no changes to motors needed</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 02:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>G-unit, easiest way might be to switch to a 0.9 degree stepper motor (400steps/rev)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 02:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Is there anyway to fix this with the Printrboard rev E ?&nbsp; I got this problem after i put the e3d on and just now found this thread, This has been pissing me off, but now i have found the problem.<br />Thanks G</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 02:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>you have to change the steps per mm when you change to 1/32 - they are doubled from whatever they are in 1/16.</p><p>Additionally, with the e3d, you will find it advantages to set RH to extrude at 60mm/min and then extrude 120mm&#039;s.... then adjust vref up or down until you see the smoothest possible rotation on the drive cog (mark it with a sharpie - it helps immensely) . </p><p>This will virtually eliminate moire. steps after this is to switch to bulldog XL or other geared extruder (or try 0.9° steppers).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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