<![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/topic/4545/help-me-choose-a-dual-extruder-printer-please/ Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:50:22 +0000 PunBB <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/47612/#p47612 The FlashForge's wooden frame may look odd at first, but it's actually a pretty good choice for that application, because it's not flaky cheap plywood that's going to deform, it's high-quality laser-cut birch ply.  Here are some comments about it:
http://www.amazon.com/great-concern-woo … B008CM2TCU

]]> Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:50:22 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/47612/#p47612 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/47603/#p47603 I ordered myself the new Makerbot Replicator (fifth generation). So hopefully it will ship in February.

Just cross my fingers that PLA only printer is good enough for my use (Always been using ABS on my solidoodle)

]]> Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:39:42 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/47603/#p47603 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/47562/#p47562 ronsii wrote:
helifrek wrote:


I hope this doesn't effect the forums view me for buying the FF!


You will be shunned from now til eternity....  LOL wink


This forum is open to all users of 3d printers so no worries and we look forward to hearing and seeing how the FF works for your printing needs smile

Shwew! I was worried my house might get egged! I have a question now about dual extrusion but I suppose it would be best to start a new thread.... can't seem to find a how too video on what I need.

]]> Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:35:09 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/47562/#p47562 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/47551/#p47551 helifrek wrote:


I hope this doesn't effect the forums view me for buying the FF!


You will be shunned from now til eternity....  LOL wink


This forum is open to all users of 3d printers so no worries and we look forward to hearing and seeing how the FF works for your printing needs smile

]]> Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:27:38 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/47551/#p47551 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/47507/#p47507 For the past year I was dead set on a solidoodle but after reading all the reviews on the flashforge and comparing the two I ended up ordering the flashforge. The deciding factor for me was the SD card reader and the dual extruders. Also all the customer reviews that say they were printing within an hour of opening their flashforge printer. I would say the flashforge meets all your needs except the fact that it does have a wooden frame. Amazon has them for about $1150 but I found justpla.com still has them on sale for $950 and it comes with 2 spools of filament.
I hope this doesn't effect the forums view me for buying the FF!

]]> Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:54:40 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/47507/#p47507 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/44454/#p44454 More info on my decision.

My deciding factors:
Dual extruders.  I'm really interested in disolvable support materials.
Ability to print with ABS, HIPS, Nylon, polycarbonate.
8x8x8 build volume.
I like the aluminum frame, and the syncromesh cables.
I won't have to call overseas for support.
They have a brick and mortar retail location.
open source
The more I read into 3D printers the more I want to build it myself. 

Thanks again,
Michael

]]> Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:52:02 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/44454/#p44454 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/44089/#p44089 IanJohnson wrote:

It isn't just threaded rod that causes the wobble, it is cheap inconsistent threaded rod, or a rod that is installed off center.  The more expensive printers use better rods so they are less prone to wobble.  Since the problem doesn't happen to all Solidoodles, I'm inclined to think it is the assembly that is the biggest problem.  They drill a hole in the bottom of the rod and slip it on to the motor shaft.  There have been some rods found to have that hole drilled off center which will create the wobble.

Ok.. then what you think about solution for this?
Need to replace this rod with the better one? Also with drilled hole or better with motor to rod gap detail?
And will it be possible to compensate this with software without changing rod? (I am waiting for adrian's tool)

]]> Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:19:33 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/44089/#p44089 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/44015/#p44015 It isn't just threaded rod that causes the wobble, it is cheap inconsistent threaded rod, or a rod that is installed off center.  The more expensive printers use better rods so they are less prone to wobble.  Since the problem doesn't happen to all Solidoodles, I'm inclined to think it is the assembly that is the biggest problem.  They drill a hole in the bottom of the rod and slip it on to the motor shaft.  There have been some rods found to have that hole drilled off center which will create the wobble.

]]> Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:17:39 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/44015/#p44015 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/44014/#p44014 I ordered a Bukobot Duo a few days ago.  I can't wait.

]]> Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:08:22 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/44014/#p44014 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/43944/#p43944 So what are you going to buy?
I have SD2 pro at this moment, and have a lot problems with Z wobble, I really hate those waves on printed models. Tried some hardware fixes, but result is not very good.
I am waiting for adrian tool to make software upgrades... with hope that software Z wobble compensation will solve this. It is good that SD is open source and many fixes are possible, but as I want to make small business with printing, then I want to buy second printer.
It should be dual extruders printer to print models with different support material...
And also I would like to have printed models without (Z-Y-X) periodical waves................
Guys,  Flash Forge seems to have thread also for Z... then it will have wobble also like Solidoodle.... are there not expensive models about 1000-1500 $ without wooble and as a result - without waves on model problems? Preferably with dual extruder and stand alone printing possibility..........?

]]> Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:32:20 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/43944/#p43944 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/42334/#p42334 Thanks Ian!  I could use some direction in that regard.  I tried 123D, but didn't feel like I had fine enough control, and kept looking for more tools.

]]> Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:58:33 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/42334/#p42334 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/42214/#p42214 If you are trying to learn a new modeling program, skip sketchup and go for one of the free CAD programs that do solid modeling like 123D Design, Creo Elements or Tinkercad.  Then you won't have to worry about making mistakes with the mesh that will make it unprintable.

]]> Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:32:07 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/42214/#p42214 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/42210/#p42210 Thanks a bunch guys!  I'm getting close to making a decision.  Now if I can just figure out sketchup ;(

]]> Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:05:12 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/42210/#p42210 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/41972/#p41972 Forgot one

can most printers be made to print to a similar detail level?

Just like 3d-oodler said you can however if you really want extreme detail such
as the detail you would need from a complex engagement ring or war hammer 40k miniature model
then you can't beat an SLA printer.

Only thing is the cost is enormous compared to a FDM printer such as ours and in order to get the build volume your looking
for at the moment you would have to spend thousands of dollars as your build area requires a larger area then the form 1 which is 4.9 x 4.9 x 6.5 in and you don't get dual extrusion with sla.

The resin for the printers are extremely costly as well which they fail to.

If we have a failed print it will cost 2 dollars or less vs 10 to 30 dollars for a failed print with the resin based printers.

]]> Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:27:46 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/41972/#p41972 <![CDATA[Re: Help me choose a dual extruder printer please]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/41963/#p41963

Does the horizontally moving bed tend to make tall prints warp or fall over all together?

Not necessarily but it is a possibility as well.

How does this affect precision.  What about speed?

Precision wise it's about the same however one of the benefits is that you can have a dialed in
Build plate that doesn't require adjusting which saves you time on calibration.

Some of the downsides to this approach is that you suffer a little on speed and you have an
Increased foot print with the bed traveling past the length of the printer

]]> Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:59:24 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/41963/#p41963