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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/30683/#p30683</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Dang! I wish I had worked this out before posting... I&#039;d feel less... well... </p><p>Okay, so as it turns out, I needed to set the &quot;top solid infill&quot; to 100% and voila! Now I have a top surface. That was the same thing that I had set for my &quot;first layer&quot;, you&#039;d think I would have figured that one out yesterday...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So, it seems that I can correct some of this behavior by unchecking the radio button for &quot;only fill where needed&quot;. Now I have my seven layers, however, they are solid fill layers. The top is not a smooth fill like the bottom layer. The top is spaced in the same manner as the internal solid fill and not smooth and tightly packed like the bottom.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Horizontal Shells seems to have no effect at all.</p><p>I was noticing the problem with my prints and decided to take a look at the g-code in Repetier. When you look at each layer you will notice that the horizontal shells don&#039;t change, there is always one on the bottom and three on the top. I am slicing at .1 mm and I want 7 layers for my top and bottom... no such luck. It doesn&#039;t matter what number I use in the configuration, I always get the same in the g-code. 1 solid bottom layer, followed by a hollow layer, followed by three filled layers. The rest of the g-code is normal until you get near the top, then it&#039;s a filled layer, followed by a hollow layer, followed by three filled layers and no solid &quot;shell&quot; at all on the top.</p><p>Please take a look at the g-code in the editor and check out your layers, don&#039;t just look at the print as it might look pretty good even with this strange slicing going on. Scroll through one layer at a time and you will notice a huge difference between the bottom layer and the rest of the filled layers as the bottom is the only layer that is truly solid.</p><p>If anybody can figure this out, please let me know. Slic3r is an amazing program and I am humbled by what it can do. However, this does seem to be a bug that maybe you can only notice if you are printing in .1 mm with a .1 mm first layer and a 100% first layer width (not the default 200%).</p><p>I&#039;d be happy to share my g-code and .ini files if anybody wants to take a closer look.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/4174/#p4174</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Try setting the nozzle size to .32 and see if it puts the paths a little closer together.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IanJohnson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 03:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Upgraded to Slic3r 9.4. According to the release notes, it was supposed to take care of the thin/narrow fill problems.</p><p>The fill looks like it does what it is supposed to now in a .1-.12&quot; wall. The top surfaces are not any better than the infill below and are not solid as they should be. I have the horizontal shells set to 2 layers. Extrusion multiplier bumped to .9.</p><p>What other settings can I change to get the top surfaces to be solid fills?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (KD)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 02:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/4114/#p4114</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll try that nest cylindrical part.</p><p>I&#039;m doing a rectangular part now with .12&quot; thick walls. It does the two perimeters with no infill between them.</p><p>Why won&#039;t it do the infill? Seems to be consistant regardless of a straight wall or curved wall part.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (KD)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/4098/#p4098</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe try a concentric fill.&nbsp; That might be better at filling narrow spaces.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IanJohnson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggestions. Getting closer.<br />Checked the filament, Ø.048 undersize from the Ø.175 nominal. Changed the extrusion multiplier to .7. The gap between the perimeters is now closed. The part has a diameter of .72&quot; with an id of .5&quot; Thr perimeters are now fine but there isn&#039;t any infill between the two perimeters and it is open at the top between them. I looks like there is a inner and outer race on what should be solid.<br />What controls the infill between small gaps like this?<br />Infill is set to 1<br />Solid every 2<br />angle 45<br />threshold 70</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (KD)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/4074/#p4074</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If your perimeters have gaps between them, the flow is too low.&nbsp; Double check that you have the right filament diameter (measured with a caliper), and nozzle size.&nbsp; If those are correct, try increasing the Extrusion Multiplier a little.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IanJohnson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem with parts and Slic3r. So far, there doesn&#039;t seem to be a setting to close the top surfaces completely.&nbsp; I get seperate perimeters depending on the number set in layers and perimeters. The infill going only from the inner most perimeters. It seems perimeters should be next to each other and fused together.</p><p>Horizontal shells&gt; solid layers has no effect on the top surfaces that I have found. They are left open or appear more as infill as your pictures show. I tried the default settings and they produce the same problem.</p><p>What settings are changed/set to have it work so well that Slic3r is the apparent favorite?</p><p>On the other hand, Skeinforge parts close and fill in the top surfaces completly. It does take longer to slice and has fewer settings than Slic3r, but it does produce good parts.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!&nbsp; I bumped the horizontal shell solid layers up from 3 to 6, and there was some improvement, but it is still not perfect.&nbsp; I am printing at 0.1 mm, BTW</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem. I changed the flow rate for bridges back up to 1, not sure if this made a difference, but the reasoning was that it seemed like not enough material was being extruded to avoid the strand breaking. I also changed horizontal shells solid layers to 6.</p><p>Note, these settings were for a layer height of 0.1mm, you might get away with less top layers if your height is different. Try printing with 6, watch it, and see if you can get away with less.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Horizontal shells, solid layers is set to 3 in Slicer.&nbsp; Infill density is 0.2, infill every 3 layers, solid fill every 0 layers</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 12:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: top surfaces not right]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/3938/#p3938</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not enough infill to support the solid layers.&nbsp; Try more infi or more solid layers.&nbsp; How many are there on top? Looks like only 1.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IanJohnson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[top surfaces not right]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>while the bottoms and sides of my prints are close to perfect, the tops are another story.&nbsp; See attached image.&nbsp; Is there a Slicer setting that someone would recommend altering?&nbsp; I&#039;m talking in particular about the &quot;checkerboard&quot; pattern on the left.&nbsp; It is almost as if Slicer is still emitting infill, and not emitting a top surface.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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