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			<title><![CDATA[Re: too many things going wrong]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jon_bondy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks, everyone, for all of your suggestions.&nbsp; What really helped was running the 1st layer at 25% of the normal speed. With that, even with the bed not PERFECTLY level, everything is sticking just fine.&nbsp; Despite other&#039;s comments, my kapton is working perfectly (although I have only done a dozen prints, or so).&nbsp; I&#039;m now running the bed at 85 and the extruder at 185</p></blockquote></div><p>Very glad to hear things are up and running.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, everyone, for all of your suggestions.&nbsp; What really helped was running the 1st layer at 25% of the normal speed. With that, even with the bed not PERFECTLY level, everything is sticking just fine.&nbsp; Despite other&#039;s comments, my kapton is working perfectly (although I have only done a dozen prints, or so).&nbsp; I&#039;m now running the bed at 85 and the extruder at 185</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve updated the start g-code thread to address the original problem from this thread:</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/231/improved-start-and-end-gcode/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/231/impr … end-gcode/</a></p><p>As for the sticking, level the bed, fix the z-offset, and perhaps use some hairspray.</p></blockquote></div><p>Comprehensive!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (solijohn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve updated the start g-code thread to address the original problem from this thread:</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/231/improved-start-and-end-gcode/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/231/impr … end-gcode/</a></p><p>As for the sticking, level the bed, fix the z-offset, and perhaps use some hairspray.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (lawsy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Clean the bed with aceton, or switch out the Kapton tape. My kapton tape that came with the printer had some major sticking problems. The new one is almost the other way, sticks like crazy...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Rondavouz)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I tried to print the two knobs without support, and got part of the way there before one of the pieces separated from the bed.&nbsp; The bed was at 100.&nbsp; What is next?&nbsp; Hairspray?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/3465/#p3465</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow.&nbsp; You edit something, change it, and it does not automatically select your most recent settings?&nbsp; Amazing.&nbsp; &nbsp;Yes.&nbsp; I made the exact same &quot;mistake&quot; as you did.&nbsp; Not the most useful or intuitive program behavior.&nbsp; I expect I will be making this mistake again.</p><p>Thanks!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/3463/#p3463</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>When you changed the profile in slic3r, did you give it a different name?&nbsp; Is the profile without support selected in Repetier?</p><p>Many times I would make a new profile in Slic3r and hit slice, without having selected the new profile in Repetier which would just give me the same thing I had before.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IanJohnson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/3459/#p3459</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m looking at Repetier, and it seems that Slicer is creating support material, even with the check box disabled</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what I was looking for - Thank you!</p><p>My second printing attempt was the filament bushing, which printed perfectly.&nbsp; My third attempt was a pair of the bed adjustment knobs, but all I ended up with was a ball of plastic string.&nbsp; I tried again, and noticed that while the central disks printed correctly, there were a few stray lines along each side that were not sticking to the bed.&nbsp; Assuming that this might be support structures, I removed support, but the problem persisted.&nbsp; Any idea what is wrong here? The bed is set to 100, but probably is closer to 95</p><p>I would attach the images in line, but I am not sure how that is done</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jon_bondy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is there any way to set the custom GCode up so that it starts heating the bed, waits for the bed, starts heating the extruder, waits for the extruder, and then goes?&nbsp; It takes 15 minutes for the bed to heat, but only 3 minutes for the extruder to heat.&nbsp; I don&#039;t want the extruder sitting there hot for 12 minutes if I can avoid it.</p></blockquote></div><p>I modded a part of the start gcode to ..</p><p>M190 S95 ; set and wait for bed temp of 95 to be reached<br />M140 S100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;;then set bed to 100<br />M104 S200 ; set extruder temp and start heating<br />G90; set absolute coordinates<br />G1 Z5 F300 ;move platform down 5mm<br />G1 X10 Y10 F3000 ;move to front left corner<br />M109 S200; wait for extruder temp to be reached</p><br /><p>so it waits till 95 is reached, it gets there every time but will only get to 100 if the case is on, so I then set it for 100 but do not wait for it, turn on the extruder to 200 but do not wait, home all the axis, with the Z right down the bottom it takes a little while to lift up so the extruder temp can get a start on the heating before this .. then it does the shift to front left and waits there over the bed till full heat is obtained.<br />So since the bed has still been heating that last bit while the extruder heats its closer to the 98 mark by the time it starts printing. The trick is to get the extruder on just a little before the bed is up to temp, then there is no waste of time waiting for bed and then extruder and the extruder is not sitting there cooking, it goes as soon as the extruder is up to temp even if the bed is still a little low.</p><p>see the modified start gcode thread for the rest of it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Stoney)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I did no bed leveling nor any significant calibration (I did measure the diameter of the filament).&nbsp; The first part was printed at 0.1 mm layer height and was a cylinder 20 mm tall and 20 mm in diameter (one of a series of calibration parts that I created in Sketchup). Measured height ranges between 19.98 and 20.15 mm; measured diameter varies between 19.03 and 20.07; I may need to fiddle with the X and Y proportionality, or with the belts.&nbsp; The part stayed on the original kapton surface throughout the print, and popped right off after the bed cooled. All in all, I&#039;m quite pleased.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I heat the bed manually, second thing after turning on the lights when I enter the room.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;ll turn on the extruder manually as well, maybe just before I load up the gcode after the bed is up to temp.&nbsp; The gcode for the print already has wait for temperature commands, so I don&#039;t see the need for it in start gcode.&nbsp; </p><p>I try to have it with 5C of the print temperature when I start.&nbsp; I usually extrude a little first to get it primed, and don&#039;t want it waiting above the bed, oozing more plastic while it reaches temp.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IanJohnson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>All comments were very helpful!</p><p>I finally gave up on all of the extruder temperature commands and commented them out.&nbsp; I ensured that the bed and extruder were up to temperature, manually, and then started the job.&nbsp; It seemed to go OK (some strings, but after all, it was the first print).</p><p>Is there any way to set the custom GCode up so that it starts heating the bed, waits for the bed, starts heating the extruder, waits for the extruder, and then goes?&nbsp; It takes 15 minutes for the bed to heat, but only 3 minutes for the extruder to heat.&nbsp; I don&#039;t want the extruder sitting there hot for 12 minutes if I can avoid it.</p><p>Is everyone managing the bed temperature manually (heating it up before you start printing)?</p><p>What custom GCode are you using presently?</p><p>Thanks!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jon_bondy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jon_bondy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>M104 S195,195,195 ; set extruder temp and start heating<br />*snip*<br />M109 S195,195,195; wait for extruder temp to be reached</p></blockquote></div><p>This is the problem. The software is trying to set the temp for three extruders. You are using my new g-code, but Repetier-Host&nbsp; 0.84 breaks it.</p><p>Where the code asks for [first_layer_temp], substitute in your 195.</p><p>Watch the video in my thread to see what the extrude anchor does.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (lawsy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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