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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I can say with certainty that it was the plastic.</p><p>I added the scraps from my initial green ABS that came with the SD and it disolved in about 30 mins into the milky slurry that everyone talks about. </p><p>The Blue ABS blob is still just a solid lump of bubblegum.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 04:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is why I use the failed first layer prints and nozzle drips.&nbsp; smaller size means faster dissolve.&nbsp; SD filament dissolves pretty well, as well as MG94 from a filastruder.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it does take time. but for me not more than a day. Maybe OP will have some luck though today <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Gomisan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks guys, I&#039;ve given it a lot of shaking, but I&#039;ll leave it another day or so. perhaps I put in too much ABS? It&#039;s a pasta sauce jar and the ABS blob in the bottom is almost an inch high, and it is half full of perfectly clear acetone.</p></blockquote></div><p>Doesn&#039;t sound like too much.</p><p>Worth asking- is this pure acetone, or 70% acetone? I have never tried the lower percentage stuff, just use industrial acetone which I think is fairly pure.</p><p>But what you buy for removing nail polish and so forth is often &lt;100%</p></blockquote></div><p>It takes time for it to dissolve.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s supposedly pure acetone from the hardware store. I&#039;m wondering about the ABS.. I read somewhere that not all ABS is the same (not really ABS?) and some wont dissolve properly in Acetone.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Gomisan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gomisan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks guys, I&#039;ve given it a lot of shaking, but I&#039;ll leave it another day or so. perhaps I put in too much ABS? It&#039;s a pasta sauce jar and the ABS blob in the bottom is almost an inch high, and it is half full of perfectly clear acetone.</p></blockquote></div><p>Doesn&#039;t sound like too much.</p><p>Worth asking- is this pure acetone, or 70% acetone? I have never tried the lower percentage stuff, just use industrial acetone which I think is fairly pure.</p><p>But what you buy for removing nail polish and so forth is often &lt;100%</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 03:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys, I&#039;ve given it a lot of shaking, but I&#039;ll leave it another day or so. perhaps I put in too much ABS? It&#039;s a pasta sauce jar and the ABS blob in the bottom is almost an inch high, and it is half full of perfectly clear acetone.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Gomisan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 23:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Takes a few shakes. I have a tiny pinprick hole in my jar because pressure can build up and make it hard to open. Not all jars have this problem (like certain latches don&#039;t have that problem, this is an old pickled mushrooms jar from the polish store. )</p><br /><br /><p> I made a 7&quot; piece the other day (slanted) with acetone slurry.&nbsp; Almost no warping, and the piece was a warpy kind of piece.<br />That said, I also broke my 2mm glass getting the piece off [i kind of expected that &amp; wasn&#039;t careful enough.]</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Tomek)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gomisan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Came home hoping to have a nice &#039;slurry&#039; to try out, and instead I have a big bubblegum like blob of ABS at the bottom of the jar and pure clean Acetone on top. It started out as lots of fine scrap from brims etc. Is this normal?</p><p>Do I need to leave it longer? Or is my ABS weird?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>shake it up. it should mix</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Came home hoping to have a nice &#039;slurry&#039; to try out, and instead I have a big bubblegum like blob of ABS at the bottom of the jar and pure clean Acetone on top. It started out as lots of fine scrap from brims etc. Is this normal?</p><p>Do I need to leave it longer? Or is my ABS weird?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Gomisan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>mwhahahaha</p><p>I feel chastised for using the &#039;glue&#039; word! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>In future I shall call the Acetone+ABS mix a banana... or was that an apple? Dammit, let it be a slurry and be done with it.</p><p>and thankyou Adrian for answering my question. I have some ABS dissolving in acetone at home, a good use for a lot of brim scrap, and I will try that tonight with my more difficult print.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Gomisan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For answering how to use the, ahem,&nbsp; <strong>slurry</strong>.</p></blockquote></div><p>I did say it was what its colloquially referred to - not what it was specifically in terms of a substance.. and I was trying to be helpful to prevent people talking about Apples when they really mean Bannanas... because the ABS+Acetone concoction is not the same thing as actual ABS Glue. But if you feel it should instead be called &quot;Steve&quot; or something - go for it... But if you look on RepRap forums or Printrbot forums.. you will see many many references to ABS Slurry/Paste.... but the ones to Glue are usually in specific reference to &#039;actual&#039; adhesive solvents... </p><p>If trying to make sure you are on the same page with regard to taxonomy within the community caused some sort of offence... my apologies for trying to assist the thread with getting external or alternative information using the appropriate keywords and everyone should feel free to keep seeking info on Bannanas using &#039;Apples&#039; as the search word - Or &quot;Steve&quot; if thats what you prefer it to be called <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> And I&#039;ll refrain from trying to assist people to search for the right information at the right time since it seems to cause offense to people... despite trying to be a clear smart alec/jovial in my first statements <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When to use rafting?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>For answering how to use the, ahem,&nbsp; <strong>slurry</strong> [which might be better names as a liquified smoothie, because slurry implies solid particles, you are ok if the acetone in the mixture evaporated. I haven&#039;t had problems applying the acetone to a hot bed, except you risk cracking your glass, and it develops bubbles that the extruder head has to pass through. I think usually I feel most comfortable applying a thin films while the glass is soft.&nbsp; The acetone will evaporate and leave behind some super well stuck abs, which your printer than prints to.</p><p>On an insanely more wasteful scale, industrial printers sometimes do this. they print on a disposable ABS tray about 1CM thick.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Tomek)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gomisan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wish some pedant would answer the question though!</p><p><img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Use a brim when you have a reasonable amount of points of contact relative to the size of the object - such as large rectangles where the disproportionate cooling of edges to centre of the print will encourage lifting. A raft may help but will leave a lower quality surface to which it is attached. </p><p>Use a raft when you have an item with a minimal set of points of contact with the bed, particularly when relative to its size and therefore adding a brim will not help relative to the object size. For example, if printing a table &#039;the right way up&#039;, then a raft would help dramatically compared to brim due to only holding the bed through the 4 legs vs when the &#039;top&#039; is printed (ignoring the bridging challenges with this scenario <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> ). Or the Linux Penguin on thingiverse that doesn&#039;t sit flat properly and is instead cocked on one leg...</p><p>But thats just my opinion based on what I&#039;ve printed...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wish some pedant would answer the question though!</p><p><img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Gomisan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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