<![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/topic/3012/barrel-rotating/ Tue, 02 Jul 2013 06:10:06 +0000 PunBB <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28712/#p28712 Y

mrjohnecker wrote:

Should I just keep going until the hopper is nearly 90 degrees rotated from center?

To be clear, Tim has posted elsewhere that if this happens, then you can simply remove the bolts on the collar, rotate by 90 degrees and you're back in action. He said he designed the cutout and hopper such that if it is within 45degrees of vertical then things will work, so by being able to rotate the collar/flange by 90 degrees you can always get to within 45.

Obviously once it has twisted and locked itself it won't twist further.

Craig

]]> Tue, 02 Jul 2013 06:10:06 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28712/#p28712 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28675/#p28675 A rubber wrench helped me tighten the pipe into the collar.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-piece-ru … 94119.html

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:35:23 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28675/#p28675 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28634/#p28634 Ralphxyz wrote:

I go as tight as I can by hand without massive tools

Are you still using water pump pliers backwards like your video shows or do you have a pipe wrench, so that you can apply some torque?

Ralph

I use channellocks like in the video, but on the flange side of the cutout to avoid barrel bending.

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 13:53:40 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28634/#p28634 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28632/#p28632

I go as tight as I can by hand without massive tools

Are you still using water pump pliers backwards like your video shows or do you have a pipe wrench, so that you can apply some torque?

Ralph

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 13:46:43 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28632/#p28632 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28629/#p28629 Basically, yes. I go as tight as I can by hand without massive tools, and then position the flange such that if the motor tightens it further, the barrel will rotate towards vertical.

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 13:39:44 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28629/#p28629 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28627/#p28627

Sometimes I do have to let the motor finish the job

So Tim are you tightening the barrel to say 10:00 o'clock  and letting the motor twist finish off at 12:00 o'clock?

Ralph

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 13:30:30 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28627/#p28627 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28615/#p28615 Can't you just put a big heavy wrench on the barrel in such a way that gravity causes it to create a constant torque in the opposite direction it wants to twist? I'm just saying, if you know the barrel is going to twist and it only twists one way, why not pre-emptively counter that?

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 12:20:04 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28615/#p28615 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28565/#p28565 If you only tighten it on the side towards the flange like the instructions call for, you shouldn't bend it.

Sometimes I do have to let the motor finish the job. The nice part about the motor doing it is you get a pure couple, that is a rotation without translation - no net force.

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 02:16:23 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28565/#p28565 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28562/#p28562 I still got barrel twist even after I tightened it as much as I possibly could.  It's better to not risk putting a bend in the barrel trying to tighten it so much and just accept that you will need to readjust for twist a couple of times during the "burn in" period.

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 01:40:48 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28562/#p28562 <![CDATA[Re: Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28556/#p28556 Can't you tighten the barrel before starting? I do not have my Filastruder yet so that is entire speculation (guessing).

But it seems like if barrel twist is a problem then you do not have it tight enough to begin with.

Ralph

]]> Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:59:12 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28556/#p28556 <![CDATA[Barrel rotating]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/28546/#p28546 I'm trying to work with PLA and it needs to melt a lower temp than ABS. The problem is that the temp that produces really consistent results is also the temp that causes the barrel to twist. Do I need to be worried about this? Should I just keep going until the hopper is nearly 90 degrees rotated from center?

]]> Sun, 30 Jun 2013 23:02:29 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/28546/#p28546