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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/28228/#p28228</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well,&nbsp; That&#039;s what I love about the community, you ask questions and you get help.</p><p>You guys were right about the overheating stepper drivers.&nbsp; I put a fan in front of the bpard, and was able to print the entire job without any problems.&nbsp; Prior to adding the fan,&nbsp; I ran one more test run and it failed on layer 5 even though the system had been off all day.</p><p>So now I&#039;ll have to make a fan holder and air duct.&nbsp; Or buy a 1U blower and mount it right next to the board.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/28213/#p28213</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>westin.williams wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Some thermal adhesive, small heatsinks from amazon and I even added a fan for air flow and problem solved. Goodluck!</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi,<br />If you have any links to what you used, I&#039;ll bet that would be appreciated by some ...<br />Matt</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/28209/#p28209</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it&#039;s definitely the stepper drivers. If you touch them you will burn your finger (that&#039;s a bad sign) and unfortunately they aren&#039;t shipped with heatsinks mounted when they should be standard. Some thermal adhesive, small heatsinks from amazon and I even added a fan for air flow and problem solved. Goodluck!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (westin.williams)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pirvan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So anyone have any ideas as to what we&#039;re experiencing?</p></blockquote></div><p>I think it&#039;s most definitely a stepper driver issue. I would:</p><p>1) check the voltage of the trimpots<br />2) cool the electronics</p><p>I had exactly the same problem when attaching the pengpod, it turned out it was a conflict between USB and regulator voltages. If the two steps above don&#039;t work, I suggest cutting the 5V line from USB on the sanguinololu board.</p><p>Sorry that we all gave you slightly different advice, but we actually mostly agree that it&#039;s a driver problem, we just have different approaches to it <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Rincewind)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/28150/#p28150</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>This is so weird.&nbsp; I tried to print a model this morning and this evening, and I had the same thing, The first shift occurred in the &quot;Y&quot; axis, and it was about and inch (25cm) forward.&nbsp; It&#039;s a fairly large and complicated print, and the shift happened about 3 layers into the print.</p><p>I killed the print and this evening I tried again.&nbsp; The shift happened twice, once in the X and Y axis (diagonal shift), the finally on the Y axis again, twice in sequence.&nbsp; Once about a 1/2&quot; shift, then another 1/4&quot;.&nbsp; This last time I could hear a little pop as the shift happened, so I&#039;m not sure where it came from.</p><p>I did not have this problem before, but here are a the variables that I can think of:</p><p>1.&nbsp; A few days ago, I did the mechanical &quot;fix&quot; Solidoodle support came up with for fixing round circles.&nbsp; I did it exactly as they show it on the video, and made sure that all the belts are properly tensioned and the set screws secure.&nbsp; So I&#039;m pretty sure nothing is slipping.&nbsp; I can manually move the carriage back and forth and it&#039;s smooth and I can&#039;t feel any slippage or skipping.</p><p>2.&nbsp; The other possibility is the weather here.&nbsp; It&#039;s been in the 80°s even in the evening and heat might be a contributing factor, but I think that&#039;s reaching, it&#039;s been hot before and I didn&#039;t have any problems like this.</p><p>3.&nbsp; Last but not least, I made one modification to the system, I added a 12V extruder fan, which seems to work OK, and is being driven from the 12V header on the mainboard.</p><p>So anyone have any ideas as to what we&#039;re experiencing?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (pirvan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/28142/#p28142</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, shifts like these are almost always caused by an overheated controller, specifically the pololu driver. </p><p>Put at least a 40mm fan on the controller. Problem solved. </p><p>If I forget to turn my fan on I get the dreaded skip in a matter of minutes.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Briggs)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 03:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/28138/#p28138</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>could be your powersupply. the laptop bricks SDs ship with are pretty &quot;flimsy&quot;. i already upgraded mine to one of these: </p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Regulated-Switching-Computer-Project/dp/B009EIANT2/ref=sr_1_21?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1372301063&amp;sr=1-21&amp;keywords=DC+power+supply">http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Regulat … wer+supply</a> </p><p>with a 12 amp fuse between the supply and my printer. no more annoying capacitor chirp for me! </p><p>also consider a UPS, you can get a cheap one for $80 to $100 and it really helps take all the guess work out of power issues since you can rule out any glitches coming from the mains power. not to mention my printer continues happily printing along when a summer thunderstorm makes the lights flicker.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>my y shifts are usually caused by filament, the friction of pulling the filament made y stepper to skip couple steps.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>A big layer shift (y axis)&nbsp; happened to me the other day on an sd3 with no fan running on the circuit board.&nbsp; The temp and humidity had jumped from 65f to 85f.&nbsp; I took the printer down to my cool dry basement and it went through a two hr print fine.</p><p>Matt</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Extreme shift after a few layers]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/27889/#p27889</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>We&#039;ve had our SD3 for a few months now and while I wouldn&#039;t say it is perfectly calibrated, we have been producing some decent quality stuff. Today I experienced something very bizarre... after a few layers (not sure how many, lets say 8 or so), the printer seems to have shifted about 1cm towards the back of the printer. I&#039;ve read about layer shifting and the stairstep effect, but I&#039;m pretty sure this has to be something else.</p><p>I&#039;ve attached a photo of the print. You can tell that the top few layers are offset about 1cm from the bottom layers.</p><p>It may have been a fluke as I haven&#039;t tried reprinting it yet (and won&#039;t get a chance until later this week) and this is the first time we&#039;ve seen it, but I thought I&#039;d check here first to see if anyone has seen anything like this before or has an idea what could have caused it? I&#039;m fairly certain the STL is OK, it looks fine in the preview and I ran it through netfabb first...</p><p>Edit: I should point out that this print has two separate (different) pieces, I had a couple of people assume that the &quot;extreme shift&quot; I was talking about was the second piece itself...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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