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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The drive?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Downeasta wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>5 ten thousandths isnt that bad for tolerances.&nbsp; Heck some of my hydraulic motors are tighter than that as they are metal sealed by the fit.&nbsp; Blowby occurs when it wears off one thousandth.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yup, Interference Fits are fun... but doesn&#039;t mean using thousands of an inch makes it more accurate... thats all I&#039;m saying.. there is nothing magical or special about a Mil vs a Micron - except one is an International Standard, understood and accepted and utilised all over the world, and the other is from a bygone era and is used formally in only 3 nations in the world.. Burma, Liberia and the US.</p><p>Not sure how that makes mils more accurate for tolerances than a micron (which is what you stated above....)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The drive?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>5 ten thousandths isnt that bad for tolerances.&nbsp; Heck some of my hydraulic motors are tighter than that as they are metal sealed by the fit.&nbsp; Blowby occurs when it wears off one thousandth.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The drive?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Downeasta wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I only think in 0.000&quot; (+/- 0.0005) as I like to build things that have tolerances. </p><p>Sorry if you dont appreciate it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, because you can&#039;t possibly design a tolerance with a mere Micron <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> </p><p>Quick - Call the world wide scientific industry - Their measurements are out, particularly at the molecular level !!! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>(I regularly do PCB design work.. I am *very* versed in Mils and live in the sub-20 mils zone. Doesn&#039;t mean its magically more accurate than a Base 10 derived international standard <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> )</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The drive?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I only think in 0.000&quot; (+/- 0.0005) as I like to build things that have tolerances. </p><p>Sorry if you dont appreciate it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Downeasta wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No, a clog from debris. The nozzle is 0.35mm in diameter. That&#039;s not much bigger than a human hair, so it doesn&#039;t take much of a particle to clog it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually?&nbsp; A human hair is around 0.004&quot; thick.&nbsp; .35mm comes to around 0.0137&quot; more than three hairs.&nbsp; But I suppose I am splitting hairs now.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/images/smilies/roundies/biggrin_25523.gif" alt="http://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/images/smilies/roundies/biggrin_25523.gif" /></span></p></blockquote></div><p>I was going to give you kudos.. but then you ruined it by using Non-SI units.... And more so by &#039;converting&#039; an SI unit in the same sentence... What is it with Burma, Liberia and the US insisting on having discussions in Non-SI Units... <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>And a human hair in research can be observed to range between 17 µm to 181 µm ... or 0.017mm to 0.181mm ... So only two human hairs if you&#039;ve got thick hair <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>SI Units for the win... as used by 193 other nations in the world <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The drive?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Overheating of the filament near the drive is usually caused by heat from the extruder motor.&nbsp; If you ever find the filament bending under the gear, it is often due to failure of the fan on the back of the motor.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No, a clog from debris. The nozzle is 0.35mm in diameter. That&#039;s not much bigger than a human hair, so it doesn&#039;t take much of a particle to clog it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually?&nbsp; A human hair is around 0.004&quot; thick.&nbsp; .35mm comes to around 0.0137&quot; more than three hairs.&nbsp; But I suppose I am splitting hairs now.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/images/smilies/roundies/biggrin_25523.gif" alt="http://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/images/smilies/roundies/biggrin_25523.gif" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou for your input Ian it makes alot of sense.</p><p>Does this mean that the drive is too close to the hot end?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The filament can get too warm where the gear is.&nbsp; If that happens it can soften enough that it bends under the gear rather than push into the hot end.&nbsp; That usually also means something is going wrong if it is getting that hard to push.&nbsp; If the filament is getting a little harder to extrude, that can cause some plastic to get shaved off and stuck in the teeth, which then makes the problem worse.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 05:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Downeasta wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would think a clog would be that the nozzle cooled.&nbsp; If it got too warm it should flow more easily.</p></blockquote></div><p>No, a clog from debris. The nozzle is 0.35mm in diameter. That&#039;s not much bigger than a human hair, so it doesn&#039;t take much of a particle to clog it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I would think a clog would be that the nozzle cooled.&nbsp; If it got too warm it should flow more easily.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The OD is 12.5mm.</p><p>I really don&#039;t think those will work. When shavings are made, it&#039;s because the steel teeth are pushing so hard the plastic is disintegrating. I don&#039;t think you can approach the same tangental force that steel teeth make on plastic using rubber.</p><p>Usually shredding occurs because something is wrong, like the nozzle is clogged or the filament is getting too warm while feeding.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>To retrofit the drive (if rubber works), lobstermen here in Maine use these rubber bands that are about 0.50 id (relaxed).&nbsp; They are cheap to get a handful I could get them for free.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://penobscotmarinemuseum.org/pbho-1/sites/default/files/collection/Lobster%20Claw%20Bands.jpg" alt="http://penobscotmarinemuseum.org/pbho-1/sites/default/files/collection/Lobster%20Claw%20Bands.jpg" /></span></p><p>Can some one tell me the OD of the drive wheel?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[The drive?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So I understand that the drive is leaving shavings from the filament during printing that can cause the extruder to fail.</p><p>What I am wondering is what if the drive wheel were to have a rubber surface?&nbsp; <br />Or is it more a matter of torque that only a metal wheel can exert?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 03:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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